Forcing players to pay to keep housing is unfair.

[LineageRazor]

It's probably because if they do that, you'll hardly see any housing demolition at all. I've lost count of how many personal houses I've seen demolished and get new owners, but I don't believe I've even seen a single FC auto demolish, but obviously that's just based on what I've seen.

I'm not saying the system is perfect at all, but right now at least (on most servers) you have a chance to get housing if you actively check, if they let tenants also reset timers, people will be adding people to their houses just to save their houses until the end of time... and if you're actually actively using the house this shouldn't be a thing that really bothers you either.

As evidenced by Jade's post, with the proper permissions a friend can do a LOT with your private residence. If your friends are manipulating furnishings, gardening, stabling chocobos, etc, then personally I'd consider that house to be "lived in", even if the actual owner has to be away from the game for a while. Remember, the goal of auto demolition is (or should be) to free up housing that's not being used. If your friends are using your house, then yes, your house is being used.

And it's not as though this is issuing a free ticket to preserve your house forever: even if friends COULD save your house, just adding them is not enough. They'd presumably have to do exactly the same things you would do to save your house (i.e., walk through the front door every month or so).

Ideally, just having a subscription should be enough to preserve your home. If that's not going to happen, friends should be able to preserve your home, just as FC members can preserve FC homes.

[Alleo]

It's probably because if they do that, you'll hardly see any housing demolition at all. I've lost count of how many personal houses I've seen demolished and get new owners, but I don't believe I've even seen a single FC auto demolish, but obviously that's just based on what I've seen.

I'm not saying the system is perfect at all, but right now at least (on most servers) you have a chance to get housing if you actively check, if they let tenants also reset timers, people will be adding people to their houses just to save their houses until the end of time... and if you're actually actively using the house this shouldn't be a thing that really bothers you either.

Well I am checking on Moogle nearly daily for an open house and yet in the last few months I only saw around three opened up houses. Two small ones and one big. Either we have lots of active players or maybe I am always looking at the wrong time but I dont get the feeling that someone that is new, finally has the money and rank to buy it really has that much more of a chance thanks to the timer. Ironically the time where my old FC got the fc house and I get my own small too was before the timer.

At the same time this is not even near perfect, its in the end a really really bad bandaid..at least on the big servers even if you would need to check in each week we would never have enough housing for everyone. Its simple math. Number of players and maximum amount of housing -> far from enough.

And really if someone has tenants for their houses and they in some way are using it (even if its just going into it once or maybe planting some stuff) they would be still be using it. Also you would still need the owner to pay his sub. If I am quitting the game I will not continue to pay the sub.

At the same time I just looked in the party finder some days ago and around three people wanted to sell their houses..two people even had two small ones to sell and the third person had one small too..as long as people like that are not punished..as long as its still possible to buy multiply houses through the use of alt characters..that is the same time where I will post here complaining that those that just want their house for use will still be punished for a break or unfortunate situation.

[Hikuras]

I can see the reasoning behind the timer tho, as it'll be way too much work to rework the entire system to make it instance. I mean that'll be the perfect plan, to rework everything so it works and everyone gets a place, but sadly I don't see that happening. Tho on the other hand I can also the other view of the timer needing to be shorter. Cause fact of the matter is it'll make the people who have them log back in faster to keep their house cause it's all about that sub. In the end, there's no winners here.

[Sawamura]

Is really bad house system with so much limit. I agree
But to be fair.... FFXIV is a game with high pretty graphics.

Fact:
House ward zone is pretty huge data transfer back to back from server to you.

Why can there is so many apartment?
Apartment is same as FFXI moghouse/ingame INN is a small instance cast a lot less data.

Limit house = More content/minion/mount/gears ingame. So I can´t really blame SE with this house system.

[Jadub2k]

I have to say that the housing system in this game is quite possibly (not saying it is) one of most punishing Housing systems (or at least just the Demolition part of it) I've seen in a MMO.. I mean For FC's, the FC Leader = Owner of the house.. Though despite that anyone can reset the timer but it doesn't work that way for personal houses which is odd and don't see why it shouldn't work both ways.. it kinda defeats (or actually does) the purporse of giving others access to your house lol Would be nice if they had some kinda of in-game protection fee/Insurance/Rent/Property Tax?? Something to help protect your place should you inactivate your account for a little to take a break. (lol Feels sorta like extortion only legal xD) It's hard seeing new players ask about the housing in this game only to watch there reactions turn to uninterest when they hear how it works lol I feel for the OP but as it stands now, those are the rules set for the game. And if we can get enough people to stop bashing each others opinions then maybe something will get done. until then only thing that can be done right now is deal with it

[Born_Free]

Meanwhile....back on Balmung...

The things I would do to get a different housing area for Free Companies and individual members. It bums people out when they learn about housing but--NOPE, CHUCK TESTA--I can't count on my hands and toes how many places on Balmung have single-player mansions all to themselves while 80 man Free Companies have small plots to share amongst one another. Doesn't really make much sense, when you think about it. Imo? There ought to be FC-specific Wards comprised entirely of medium and large-scale houses that are accessible only if your Free Company has made it to a certain rank with their respective allied nation.

Let the rich people have their mansions on their own wards, sure...but I personally believe that Guild Housing ought to be a staple in MMOs, and it is entirely puzzling how Square hasn't pulled this off yet, when so many less qualified and equipped companies have.

[DamianFatale]

You don't wanna pay? There's other people who would pay to have your house. In a world where housing is limited, there is no such thing as fair or unfair for you. As much as I hate the word, entitlement is what I smell from this post.

I'm sorry that money is tight though but the reality is the reality.

Edit: I'm saying this as someone who owns a house.

Entitlement? He sunk his own time, and bought a house. That took work. Everyone should be able to have one if they work for it.

[ThePatron13]

Entitlement? He sunk his own time, and bought a house. That took work. Everyone should be able to have one if they work for it.

Arguing that everyone should get one is entirely different than arguing that the demolition timer is unfair.

[Ailis]

The housing system is flawled as it is, I think it's absurd that the FC housing shares the plots with personal housing considering there's much to benefit from housing and not having one makes you miss out on a LOT of features.
While I understand why the timers are there in the first place, it is upsetting that you can't take a break from the game without worrying about your house being demolished, it's not easy to get one specially on bigger servers. It's even more upsetting when you see a single person holding on multiple plots just for the sake of money.
Imo telling OP to get over it because this is "reality" is a poor excuse for condoning a flawled system. I'm hoping SE will address this problem in 4.0 or else the new housing area will be even a bigger mess than what we have now.

[Paladinleeds]

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While a lot of us are telling the OP to get over it, we're also advocating that SE needs to fix this broken system. And indeed, I stood by that comment in the other thread (that I got mixed up with and thought was a different more recent thread about the issue) that I necro'd (which I necro'd by accident because of the aforementioned mixing up of threads). Yes, it sucks, but we have to deal with this for now and hence the getting over it. But at the same time SE need to fix their broken housing system. I'm sorry but it is utter garbage. I'll be firm but not crude.