Page 5 of 8 FirstFirst ... 3 4 5 6 7 ... LastLast
Results 41 to 50 of 84

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Player
    loreleidiangelo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Location
    Ul'dah
    Posts
    1,731
    Character
    Lorelei Diangelo
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 74
    I think trialing the CONCEPT of set bonuses on raid gear first only isn't a bad idea. It's a small sample set of (relatively speaking) the better players in this game, meaning that the devs will get the best indicator of how powerful said effects are (and if they're broken, they won't be affecting huge portions of the population at least). It will also allow the developers to test just how strong a pull more powerful gear is in terms of encouraging people to do harder raiding.

    If the sets aren't too hard for them to balance but don't entice people to raid, I could see them being added to more "casual" gear down the line. But I think given their cautionary stance on it, their way of approaching set bonuses initially is best.
    (0)

  2. #2
    Player
    ApolloGenX's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    1,396
    Character
    Galen Amaranthe
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    So far is seems like SB will be more of the same. It sounds like they are working on some new elements to add, but nothing is really fleshed out with a long term design goal. Honestly, this makes me want to wait to even think about getting the expansion until several patches into it.
    (1)

  3. #3
    Player
    bass9020's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Gridania
    Posts
    1,038
    Character
    Versatile Bottom
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Im happy with this change of direction. I like that they are starting small with raid gear to test the waters. HOPEFULLYwe will see some nice changes in the future!
    (0)

  4. #4
    Player
    HyoMinPark's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2016
    Location
    Lavender Beds, Ward 13, Plot 41
    Posts
    7,339
    Character
    Hyomin Park
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 92
    I feel kind of on the fence about set bonuses. While it would be something interesting to add, if they only added to the Savage tier of gear, well, then what's the point, since only a small portion of the player base would even get any benefits from it/get access to it? And it wouldn't get much use unless they actually made the full Savage gear set for jobs BiS. Most BiS pull from multiple sources, and most gear sets require you to have several pieces to get decent bonuses. I'm curious as to how they're going to implement this, but I can't really say if I like the idea or not yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by ADVSS View Post
    personally, i think that raid gear should get some type of diadem-like stat allocation
    God, please no. There's already so much RNG in this game, please don't add more of it. I'm not even against this because of FFLogs (of course, I don't even use that, nor really care to). I just don't want even more RNG. I get tired of all the RNG, tbh. :/ And I'm sure there are others that feel the same as well.
    (4)
    Last edited by HyoMinPark; 04-13-2017 at 07:48 AM.
    Sage | Astrologian | Dancer

    마지막 날 널 찾아가면
    마지막 밤 기억하길

    Hyomin Park#0055

  5. #5
    Player
    ADVSS's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2016
    Posts
    2,397
    Character
    Advent Shadowsoul
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    God, please no. There's already so much RNG in this game, please don't add more of it. I'm not even against this because of FFLogs (of course, I don't even use that, nor really care to). I just don't want even more RNG. I get tired of all the RNG, tbh. :/ And I'm sure there are others that feel the same as well.
    i didnt mean extremely, set bonuses adding extra stats would work the same, i was talking about additional amount of substats
    (0)

  6. #6
    Player
    HyoMinPark's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2016
    Location
    Lavender Beds, Ward 13, Plot 41
    Posts
    7,339
    Character
    Hyomin Park
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by ADVSS View Post
    i didnt mean extremely, set bonuses adding extra stats would work the same, i was talking about additional amount of substats
    Thanks for the clarification. I interpreted it as "gamble on if you get good stats or crappy ones" like the majority of Diadem gear. (Funny story, someone in one of my parties actually got the i280 weapon for monk, and the only stat on it was +80 Determination.)

    I'm curious as to how the devs will implement this, but if they are going to make it something like the GC gear, where you need most pieces to get decent bonuses, they would need to make the bonuses more appealing than what a true BiS for a job would give a player. So, I guess we'll just have to see.
    (1)

  7. #7
    Player
    Bourne_Endeavor's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2015
    Location
    Ul'Dah
    Posts
    5,377
    Character
    Cassandra Solidor
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Thanks for the clarification. I interpreted it as "gamble on if you get good stats or crappy ones" like the majority of Diadem gear. (Funny story, someone in one of my parties actually got the i280 weapon for monk, and the only stat on it was +80 Determination.)
    Want to know what's worse? Because of the enormous weapon damage, even with just 80 determination. Those monk fists is on par with the Alex ones and barely lag behind the relic.
    (2)

  8. #8
    Player
    ADVSS's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2016
    Posts
    2,397
    Character
    Advent Shadowsoul
    World
    Zalera
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Want to know what's worse? Because of the enormous weapon damage, even with just 80 determination. Those monk fists is on par with the Alex ones and barely lag behind the relic.
    yeah thats sort of my point, with the weapon damage weighing alot more than extra secondaries, i guess it could be close, but. Well personally id be ok with raid gear getting this treatment, and making it special and detatched from the tome stuff. I couldnt care if its 10 i levels higher or more, I just dont see why tome upgrades only come from the raid as "incentive" but apparently "necessary" for raid progression to begin with. Sooo...if they did make raid gear an exception in this manner, id be ok and hope theyd keep the tome upgrades out
    (0)

  9. #9
    Player
    aesteval's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2015
    Posts
    956
    Character
    Tae Sylphanas
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    I feel kind of on the fence about set bonuses. While it would be something interesting to add, if they only added to the Savage tier of gear, well, then what's the point, since only a small portion of the player base would even get any benefits from it/get access to it? And it wouldn't get much use unless they actually made the full Savage gear set for jobs BiS. Most BiS pull from multiple sources, and most gear sets require you to have several pieces to get decent bonuses. I'm curious as to how they're going to implement this, but I can't really say if I like the idea or not yet.
    The point of it would be to create a new carrot to try and get more players to participate in content than how many currently participate in it.
    (2)

  10. #10
    Player
    Ririta's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2017
    Location
    Ul'dah
    Posts
    444
    Character
    Ririta Rita
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by aesteval View Post
    The point of it would be to create a new carrot to try and get more players to participate in content than how many currently participate in it.
    They already had the ultimate carrot in Coil (brand new content with no easy option, exclusive gear and story) and people still didn't want to do it. It's time they accept that raiding simply isn't popular on this game.
    (1)

Page 5 of 8 FirstFirst ... 3 4 5 6 7 ... LastLast