Freedom for Tiamat

[LineageRazor]

Wasn't he mourning her as his sister rather than consort ? (can't remember)

I don't think that it was ever stated that Ratatoskr and Nidhogg were mates. He clearly loved her, but I always took it as familial love, rather than romantic love. The Ishgardians killed his sister - honestly, having siblings of my own that I'm very close to, I could sure see why he'd go insane with rage at that.

I don't recall seeing any lore indicating that Azdaja and Vrtra are mated, either - unless it's in the lore book.

[Ririta]

Wasn't he mourning her as his sister rather than consort ? (can't remember)

Yes, he always refers to Rata as his sister.

[Vidu]

Wasn't he mourning her as his sister rather than consort ? (can't remember)

And even if there was any romantic intrest between Nidhogg and Ratatosk (which there is no evidence of, afaik) wouldnt it make sense for him to take a new mate - simply to reproduce and create an army of his own children to take down Ishgard.

[Lukha]

And even if there was any romantic intrest between Nidhogg and Ratatosk (which there is no evidence of, afaik) wouldnt it make sense for him to take a new mate - simply to reproduce and create an army of his own children to take down Ishgard.

Which is why I'm confused, since that's the only reason taking a new mate would make sense while he's still raging over Ratatoskr's murder...but as Enur has pointed out, the lore book claims dragons reproduce asexually, so I'm still left to wonder why he'd bother.

And I really, really thought it mentioned somewhere along the storyline that they were mated, that all the First Brood spread across the globe in mated pairs in order to propagate the species...but the closest reference I've found so far is Middy mentioning that his children spread out to breed (but not specifically anything about them pairing off), and Tiamat refering to Bahamut as 'my beloved', so maybe I'm mistaken, and Nidhogg and Ratatoskr didn't have that sort of relationship even though their siblings did...

[Unholychinchilla]

That might be the case, but if so it's odd that Nidhogg would take a consort (Tioman) when he's still mourning Ratatoskr. He doesn't seem particularly interested in companionship.

You may have a point there, though she might just have gained a place in his murder-filled heart for being his chief enabler. When encountered in the Aery he seemed pretty pissed about our actions in Sohm Al.

I'm just speculating of course, I don't have access to the lorebook or anything.

[RaijinSupreme]

You can't rescue someone that doesn't want to be rescued. No one is keeping Tiamat there but herself.

[DracotheDragon]

but if she is free who will i ride my twintania mount infront of while laughing loudly

LET ME HAVE MY GLOATING

[Dualgunner]

but if she is free who will i ride my twintania mount infront of while laughing loudly

LET ME HAVE MY GLOATING

People like us have a special spot in hell reserved.

[Settiesama]

It's stated in the book that dragons take consorts as more of a spiritual and emotional bond, it doesn't mention anything on physical though. They seek a connection with a partner on a level that the land (for lack of better words) races can't comprehend. That is why Tiamat freeing herself is a highly unlikely event, as more than just creating a monster of a thing named after Bahamut, she feels she betrayed that bond they had, which if is something we can't even imagine, is understandable why she would never want to leave or even die in the prison.

[LineageRazor]

It's stated in the book that dragons take consorts as more of a spiritual and emotional bond, it doesn't mention anything on physical though. They seek a connection with a partner on a level that the land (for lack of better words) races can't comprehend. That is why Tiamat freeing herself is a highly unlikely event, as more than just creating a monster of a thing named after Bahamut, she feels she betrayed that bond they had, which if is something we can't even imagine, is understandable why she would never want to leave or even die in the prison.

Whether or not we can understand it, the game makes it clear that someone who CAN understand it (Midgardsormr) feels that she has tormented herself long enough. The "dragons have bonds we can't even comprehend" excuse doesn't work very well when the most dragonly of dragons holds the same opinion we do!

On the other hand, just as one human cannot always understand the depths of emotion another human can feel, it could be the same between dragons. Midgardsormr may simply not have the right frame of reference to understand how completely Tiamat was devastated, having never gone through something similar himself (that we know of). Heck, Middy may never have even had a mate of his own in the first place.

Still, Midgardsormr's words lead me to believe that the events surrounding Bahamut's death and recreation as a Primal are wounds that time CAN heal. Tiamat may still one day pull herself out of her eons-long funk without waiting for death to claim her first. I'd simply like to see that day come within the lifespan of the game. :P