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    It's sad people should learn about economics when talking about pricing of games...complainers will complain...buyers will buy...the supply and demand will dictate the direction...right now...they don't really care...and I'm sure they'll re-evaluate it when 2.0 comes out. But the price is too low anyways...especially if you pay in advance...

    There are a lot of people I know that would pay full price. So, the discount should come to make many happy. If you still complaining go pay your $15 to another MMO already. Seriously...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Agoven View Post
    It's sad people should learn about economics when talking about pricing of games...complainers will complain...buyers will buy...the supply and demand will dictate the direction...right now...they don't really care...and I'm sure they'll re-evaluate it when 2.0 comes out. But the price is too low anyways...especially if you pay in advance...

    There are a lot of people I know that would pay full price. So, the discount should come to make many happy. If you still complaining go pay your $15 to another MMO already. Seriously...


    It's this {they can do no wrong} mentality that allows governments to become corrupt, and companies to keep screwing over their customers with terrible products.

    People payed for a product, the product was incomplete and people are voicing it. You on the other hand are defending their actions and telling everyone that doesn't agree with you that their opinions don't matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akuun View Post
    It's this {they can do no wrong} mentality that allows governments to become corrupt, and companies to keep screwing over their customers with terrible products.

    People payed for a product, the product was incomplete and people are voicing it. You on the other hand are defending their actions and telling everyone that doesn't agree with you that their opinions don't matter.
    Correction...people had a choice to pay for a product...said people could have waited for reviews etc. MMOs are ever evolving...said peoples who complained also played a year for free...said peoples want a free game because they haven't been paying...simple.

    Also, most people who play multiple characters would pay for multiple accounts since they then can play them simultaneously.

    They can do no wrong mentality? Seriously? I enjoyed FFXIV since launch. I'm sorry you didn't...I continue to enjoy the game. It's not everyone's cup of tea. If everyone liked the same thing there wouldn't be choices and options. Everything would be stagnant with no room for creativity and thought. SE made a game it wasn't everyone's cup of tea in fact it didn't get many players...so they decided to remake the game and hopefully make it to appeal more people. It's an experiment in creative licensing which ultimately is SE's loss or gain. Their decision on their direction and our decision to be part of it or not.

    As far as governments are concerned...they become corrupt because people are corrupt. And people would rather vote for the popular than unpopular. And mostly it's the people who are their own worst enemy...

    It's funny whether or not they put in a price reduction...and I said it before in previous posts...it doesn't matter...those that will complain will complain. They reduced the price...and if you pay for 180 days it's pretty deep discount. And yet people still complain. The fact is those complainers just want a free game. It's that simple. Least they could do is admit it.

    And if you've seen the decrease in players it's just cause we've beaten Ifrit a couple hundred times and pretty worn out and the loot rate is horrible...and it's such a waste to get 2 of the same weapon so instead of getting infuriated most took a break. There are also many other games out. It's healthy to take some time off any game.
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    Last edited by Agoven; 12-06-2011 at 09:24 PM.

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    other companies don't allow your character do to every class and craft.
    Don't bother calling in EVE: it don't have class, nor you can max out everything
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    So uh... all i really see is for the most part is the complaining about $3 character slots.... this is how i see it:

    SE target price $9.99

    $6.99 (basic service) + $3 (character slot) = $9.99 <- NO other existing MMO is this low!
    $9.99 (full service) Same $H!T as above ^^^

    and if you really gonna complain about needing to pay for another slot for another character, you really have too much time and too little money... I suggest finding a minimum wage job to support this $3 fee (half an hour of work for 30 days of an extra slot).
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    As I wrote in another forum voicing more or less the same problems, other than being a business strategy, as they already said before release in many interviews, the 3$/€/£ of the characters is there because they want to promote a sort of social projection of the player in the character.

    A 'persona' of sort (psychologically speaking); that way, the player develops and builds a sort of permanent reputation in the world (and we all know that a bad reputation is hard to reset), trying at the same time to diminish the bad behaviour many players tend to have just because 'it's a game, so there are not any problems with how I behave'... and being the price of a single character so high, it'd not be so common for someone to just buy another character (or wipe out the progress with the one someone already has) just to start with a blank reputation.

    That way, someone will try to act the best they can, because, let's face it, no one wants to be the black sheep in a community... any kind of community

    Other than that, you don't even have the 'mule' fact, because we have retainers, and they cost 1$/€/£ each.

    And of course, we don't really know how many variables a single character has to store, given the amount of jobs/skills and whatnot (Skyrim comes to mind.. each save is roughly 5MB in size... ok, they're different games altogether but try to get to my point here).

    Of course, everything in here is my 2cents on the matter. I'll gladly pay for the service, I just hope patch 1.20 will be delivered soon, the wait is killing me.

    Edited for better formatting <_<
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    Last edited by Atlas; 12-06-2011 at 08:30 PM. Reason: Spelling mistakes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atlas View Post
    Other than that, you don't even have the 'mule' fact, because we have retainers, and they cost 1$/€/£ each.
    This may or may not be true, as the page doesn't explicitly state whether there will be purchasable retainers available once sub goes live. The statement is ambiguous enough that it can be read both ways, and without any explicit mention of purchasable retainers at all atm, I'm leaning towards the side that there in fact may very well be no purchasable retainer until 2.0 at the earliest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aenarion View Post
    This may or may not be true, as the page doesn't explicitly state whether there will be purchasable retainers available once sub goes live. The statement is ambiguous enough that it can be read both ways, and without any explicit mention of purchasable retainers at all atm, I'm leaning towards the side that there in fact may very well be no purchasable retainer until 2.0 at the earliest.
    Well, yeah, I was talking about post 2.0.
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    The price isn't bad but click and buy, eww no thank you.
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    Sorry but anyone defending this 3$ a char is a biggest fanboys I've ever seen. There is no excuse to charge for it. There are other games which allow even more freedom to build your character and you can have more chars for the sub price. Some of you should start sending SE money just to feel good. SE should add donations to the game.
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