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  1. #41
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    Altena Trife
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    As others said, they wouldn't work in this game really.

    To begin with, all classes need some solo capability in order to progress through story content etc. So there can never really be a full on support-only class.
    In addition to this, you can give classes supportive skills but if they were to develop something that is solely focused on supporting.. What do you do when there is nothing to support?

    I don't mean to bring this topic up but it becomes a bit like the healer DPS argument..
    When everyone's health is topped off and there is nothing to heal, what do they do? Just stand there?

    Same situation with a support class.. When there is no supporting to be done, what do you do? Stand there and tip your hat?

    I wouldn't mind seeing another supportive orientated healer though.. AST was a good start with the card system. I could see how a RDM could have been a healer/support similar to AST, however I am a lot more happy that casters are getting some love as SMN and BLM have only been the two casters in the game since 2.0.. RDM seems to me like one of the better options for a caster that would mix it up a bit over and above what we already have.

    So no, I am happier with their choice to make it a Caster DPS.
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  2. #42
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    Estellise Valesti
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    Adamantoise
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    No. Pure support would not work in this game.
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  3. #43
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Cactuar
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    FFXIV will never have a pure support job because people wouldn't take them. A one dimensional focus is why Paladin and White Mage suffer right now.
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  4. #44
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    Kaethra Tatrinae
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    FFXIV will never have a pure support job because people wouldn't take them. A one dimensional focus is why Paladin and White Mage suffer right now.
    That's not entirely true. Bards and Enchanters in both EQ's prove that singular focus on support roles is extremely desirable. But we'd need to ditch the 4man group model. Which I support. 8 man group as the base would fix the DPS queues across all datacenters.
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  5. #45
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    Misty Mew
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    Hyperion
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Unless a support role was added as additional slot to the party finder/makeup it will not and should not be added.

    A pure support would be ridiculed beyond recognition in any dungeon/raid where the "race" seems to always take priority over anything else. Every run is a rush fest or constant complaining occurs.

    support would be a bad idea, horrible in the current design. Im not saying I wouldnt enjoy one, but the role would be excluded 9x out of 10.
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  6. #46
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    Rin Black
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    Balmung
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    Samurai Lv 90
    I'm happy with Red Mage as a Ranged DPS Spellcaster job.
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  7. #47
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Leviathan
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    We have Bard and in some way Machinist. So please no, do not want a great job and SE ruin it by making it support.
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  8. #48
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    Yu Zeneolsia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maero View Post
    We have Bard and in some way Machinist. So please no, do not want a great job and SE ruin it by making it support.
    Wasnt Bard always a support job? One could say that SE ruined Bard by reducing their support skills.
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  9. #49
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    Rin Black
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    I won't mind if Red Mage has -some- support abilities, but 1 or 2 only, nothing too massive. Honestly, I think I'd be happy if Red Mage just had very strong synergy with White Mage and Black Mage. Haste/Hastaga and maybe something like Foe's Requiem to lower enemy Elemental Resistances (maybe some kind of En-Astral/En-Umbral spell to apply a resistance lowering effect on mobs struck by melee combos). I'd almost say a single target refresh, but I really don't want to see Red Mages becoming Refresh Bots like in FFXIV. So it'd be too weak to be useful, cause if it was even slightly useful, they'd wind up refresh bots.
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  10. #50
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laerune View Post
    Wasnt Bard always a support job? One could say that SE ruined Bard by reducing their support skills.
    I did not say otherwise?
    And Bard is fine but more songs would be welcomed for sure
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