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    Enur's Avatar
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    I would not consider new races worth the effort.

    Firstmost, they dont add anything to the gameplay of existing players. They only add a paid option.

    Second, they require way too much work with refitting gear. It takes a long time refitting gear and having to do it with every single piece from a pile that only grows bigger makes the creating of a new race take longer.

    World of Warcraft can add new races as they please with as big variations as they like because gear in WoW is just a texture on a naked model aside from shoulders, helmet and belt buckles. Blizzard does not care half as much about clipping on those models as SE does. This shortens the creation time significantly.
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enur View Post
    I would not consider new races worth the effort.

    Firstmost, they dont add anything to the gameplay of existing players. They only add a paid option.

    Second, they require way too much work with refitting gear. It takes a long time refitting gear and having to do it with every single piece from a pile that only grows bigger makes the creating of a new race take longer.

    World of Warcraft can add new races as they please with as big variations as they like because gear in WoW is just a texture on a naked model aside from shoulders, helmet and belt buckles. Blizzard does not care half as much about clipping on those models as SE does. This shortens the creation time significantly.
    SE clearly does not look at clipping either, well over 70% of gear has issues, lol
    But i do agree with your points
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    JunseiKei's Avatar
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    Xoria Tepes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maero View Post
    SE clearly does not look at clipping either, well over 70% of gear has issues, lol
    Every MMO that is 3D has this. It's not unique to FFXIV.
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    Tani Shirai
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    Quote Originally Posted by JunseiKei View Post
    Every MMO that is 3D has this. It's not unique to FFXIV.
    Others at least have ways of mitigating the issue, such as by allowing for more form-fitting clothing, varying idle arm position based on clothes thickness where it would otherwise clip, having more adjustable hair, and/or having on-the-fly options to tie one's hair up and out of the way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Khalithar View Post
    [We already have mature, competent, yet sensual female character types.
    Heck, if they'd just allow for one more face option each and cross-selectable animations for our "cutesy" races, we could have a lot more of that. I play cat for the running animation.

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    On topic:

    I'd love to see a new race that actually adds something to the story of the game. Consider, for instance, an expansion built around the theme of warped reality, and in turn you have a beastman pseudo-race of varying appearance based on their belief systems or ways of life, who (spoiler) each collectively subtly control reality around themselves, to the point of being able to laugh the idea of a dragon being able to fly to the point that one plummets to its death upon entering their territory, even while being able to control water or their own bloodflow or some other ridiculously impossible thing as if it were common sense. Now you have a race that's worth studying, interacting with, for one's own reasons, and an origin concept that might even allow for appearance changes in one's own character without requiring that somehow you've always been this rare race unknown to Eorzea whose identity, simply, no one noticed.

    Alternatively, you could make the new race, and the story content surrounding it, a means of creating a "boosted" character. Based on your main's level and chosen backstory, you take up the same story you'd be running parallel to on your main at the time of the race's creation, just starting a bit lower or with a less rounded build, lasting up until the point where your two characters could even potentially meet, in person. At that point, you have three options: keep the characters separate, merge your alt's progress into your main, or merge your main's progress into your alt to experience some adjusted (as in a boosted character) MSQ before moving on from where your main was.
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 04-07-2017 at 10:42 AM.

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    King Canadane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enur View Post
    Firstmost, they dont add anything to the gameplay of existing players. They only add a paid option.
    Second, they require way too much work with refitting gear. It takes a long time refitting gear and having to do it with every single piece from a pile that only grows bigger makes the creating of a new race take longer.
    Woah hold up a moment. I lost a good degree of hips, buttocks, and tail armour when we went from 1.0 to 2.0 in order to allow them,to streamline gear. Other than minor aesthetic changes, the gear isn't remodelled for each race. It's the same mesh just scaled up to each races proportions.
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    Ast Eryut
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Woah hold up a moment. I lost a good degree of hips, buttocks, and tail armour when we went from 1.0 to 2.0 in order to allow them,to streamline gear. Other than minor aesthetic changes, the gear isn't remodelled for each race. It's the same mesh just scaled up to each races proportions.
    Exactly

    The only gear that they actually work on each race for is the starter gear/clothes.
    People just want to act like the devs are at their limit.
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