Results 1 to 10 of 115

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Player
    ZioSerpe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2016
    Posts
    136
    Character
    Vanessa Zio
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kit-Kat View Post
    That was the playerbase general opinion. The real reason is, from a developer point of view, it's a lot of work. First, designing both male and female with their animations and also for each job and combat. Then adapting every piece of gear in the game to their body shapes. On top of that, they added new jobs in an expansion, whis is also a lot of work. All that while maintaining your current patches work.
    See, even if I understand that point I find it to be rather weak one:
    FFXIV is the only real competitor to the juggernaut that is World of Warcraft, if you really want to compete you need to at least try and match what they do, over the course of their expansion they added new races, improved the old ones, added customization. Now I do understand that is probably easier for WoW due to the different art style, but still, Square Enix is not exactly the indie company developing pixel games in the basement of your apartment building. They have the power to invest in the game, and if ou want to keep old players invested and find new players those are the sort of things you kinda have to do.
    (8)

  2. #2
    Player
    Kit-Kat's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2015
    Posts
    332
    Character
    Ayleen Estheim
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by ZioSerpe View Post
    See, even if I understand that point I find it to be rather weak one:
    FFXIV is the only real competitor to the juggernaut that is World of Warcraft, if you really want to compete you need to at least try and match what they do, over the course of their expansion they added new races, improved the old ones, added customization. Now I do understand that is probably easier for WoW due to the different art style, but still, Square Enix is not exactly the indie company developing pixel games in the basement of your apartment building. They have the power to invest in the game, and if ou want to keep old players invested and find new players those are the sort of things you kinda have to do.
    If we're about to compare WoW and FFXIV, WoW doesn't even come close to the graphics/detail on character complexity. Their animations are really simple and repeated on combat for different attacks, only things that change are the attack particles/effect. And the amount of work it needs compared to a FFXIV character modeling is way less.
    (3)

  3. #3
    Player
    Misutoraru's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    947
    Character
    Misutoraru Valkyrie
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kit-Kat View Post
    If we're about to compare WoW and FFXIV, WoW doesn't even come close to the graphics/detail on character complexity. Their animations are really simple and repeated on combat for different attacks, only things that change are the attack particles/effect. And the amount of work it needs compared to a FFXIV character modeling is way less.
    i think
    there are things way more important waiting to improve/fix than adding another Hyur-Animal hybird race
    and if they going for some very different race, like a beastmen, they would have to model existing equipment, mount, emote etc for a new race, those resource could be use in better way like improving the some CoL thing, big job balance patch...etc
    (0)

  4. #4
    Player
    ZioSerpe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2016
    Posts
    136
    Character
    Vanessa Zio
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Misutoraru View Post
    i think
    there are things way more important waiting to improve/fix than adding another Hyur-Animal hybird race
    and if they going for some very different race, like a beastmen, they would have to model existing equipment, mount, emote etc for a new race, those resource could be use in better way like improving the some CoL thing, big job balance patch...etc
    Gee I am so done with this argument.
    They are not an hyur-animal hybrid, if they were I'd have no intrest in it, but their body type is different, Viera body type should similar to elezeen, but hopefully not looking like transgenders...
    (0)

  5. #5
    Player
    Misutoraru's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    947
    Character
    Misutoraru Valkyrie
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ZioSerpe View Post
    Gee I am so done with this argument.
    They are not an hyur-animal hybrid, if they were I'd have no intrest in it, but their body type is different, Viera body type should similar to elezeen, but hopefully not looking like transgenders...
    of coz a beastmen race would be a way better than Hyur-animal hybrid
    but my reason remain, all those resource spending on remodeling equipment, animation etc could be spend on some content that require higher priority
    (0)

  6. #6
    Player
    Kyuuen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Posts
    725
    Character
    Kyuuen Queles
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ZioSerpe View Post
    See, even if I understand that point I find it to be rather weak one:
    FFXIV is the only real competitor to the juggernaut that is World of Warcraft, if you really want to compete you need to at least try and match what they do, over the course of their expansion they added new races, improved the old ones, added customization. Now I do understand that is probably easier for WoW due to the different art style, but still, Square Enix is not exactly the indie company developing pixel games in the basement of your apartment building. They have the power to invest in the game, and if ou want to keep old players invested and find new players those are the sort of things you kinda have to do.
    WoW is a rather poor example. The only times you can list when they released new PC races was WoW > BC with Blood Elves/Draenei and Cata > MoP with Goblin/Worgen and Pandaren. Considering the game came out 13 year ago that averages out to a new PC race/s every four-ish years.
    (5)
    Last edited by Kyuuen; 04-06-2017 at 11:50 AM.

  7. #7
    Player
    Ghastly's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Location
    Abalathia's Spine
    Posts
    1,146
    Character
    Ast Eryut
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by ZioSerpe View Post
    See, even if I understand that point I find it to be rather weak one:
    FFXIV is the only real competitor to the juggernaut that is World of Warcraft, if you really want to compete you need to at least try and match what they do, over the course of their expansion they added new races, improved the old ones, added customization. Now I do understand that is probably easier for WoW due to the different art style, but still, Square Enix is not exactly the indie company developing pixel games in the basement of your apartment building. They have the power to invest in the game, and if ou want to keep old players invested and find new players those are the sort of things you kinda have to do.
    Agree completely
    If the competition starts to outshine you, you'll have to find a way to match what they're doing.

    Yoshi is being too comfortable, but the moment another game does things better they'll have to consider it adding top requests to the game (mid content, new race, more customization).

    FFXIV is doing great and I'm happy, but things never stay the same. If they don't plan for the future they might be blindsided.
    (5)

  8. #8
    Player
    Kyuuen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Posts
    725
    Character
    Kyuuen Queles
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghastly View Post
    Agree completely
    If the competition starts to outshine you, you'll have to find a way to match what they're doing.

    Yoshi is being too comfortable, but the moment another game does things better they'll have to consider it adding top requests to the game (mid content, new race, more customization).

    FFXIV is doing great and I'm happy, but things never stay the same. If they don't plan for the future they might be blindsided.
    Using WoW as an example for adding new race/s is a poor choice.

    World of Warcraft: 2004 - Launches with 8 races divided by 2 warring factions.
    Burning Crusade: 2007 - Launches with 2 additional races (3years)
    Wrath of the Lich King: 2008 - No new races
    Cataclysm: 2010 - 2 additional races (3 years)
    Mist of Pandaria: 2012 - 1 new race (2 years)
    Warlord of Draenor: 2014 - No new race
    Legion: 2016 - No new race
    (next race...?)

    So about every 3 or 4 years a new race is added to WoW. Only exception being between Cata and MoP. They add a race when it makes sense to do so. Not because players are asking for it.

    Another reason using WoW as a comparison is bad is due to the games age. It's been out for 13 years. Naturally it's going to have more than a game that's only 4 years old going by (ARR) or 7 years old going by (XIV).
    (4)
    Last edited by Kyuuen; 04-06-2017 at 11:35 PM.

  9. #9
    Player
    SorceressVal's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2016
    Posts
    62
    Character
    Alexis Kitsune
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 83
    [QUOTE=Kyuuen;4101095]Using WoW as an example for adding new race/s is a poor choice.


    once again this isnt WoW and just cuse one diddnt do well does not mean the other wont do well

    if you need an example - any compeating car company -or- any compeating fast food place - or - any compeating supermarket ... the list goes on
    also this game execution is so far above WoW that comparing the two is retarded .... WoW had no stratiegic value it was animated like a saturday morning cartoon. it was pay to win. and on top of that the combat was so unrelisticly boring because it was so simple . each and every one of those issues are not present in FFXIV . also this was asked for not just popped up ... as much as one might think online to say no every server ever hub 1 shout and tons will ask for it even to this day
    (0)