weak excuses about adding viera

[SorceressVal]

the general reason was was it was too similar to miqo'te to add in the game ....

lets take a step back and look at that . is it a real reason? does it mean anything at all? whats similar whats not?

for this the 1st thing i instantly did after seeing that was count the similar to the not in retrospect to all the races . sounds like alot but it only took like a second .

ok miqo'te to viera how their similar : both are animal variations ... to that end both elezan and rygoden are hyur variations and au rah is another animal variation..... so...no that reason does not stand.

if its physical differences needed then lets look : How they differ : fore arm length neck length , general hight , tail type,ear type,eyes, facial features and foot size& shape.

they seem to have more not in common then in common ...

[SorceressVal]

to say the least they boad more differences from any of the current races then any ready playable race aside from lalafell. witch boads a compleately unsimilar physical outline.

so who was it that thought this was a good enough reason not to add the race ? and honestly were they expecting that we would be so dumb and ready to take whatever excuse and be happy with it ?

i for one do not see myself as slow ,dumb nor do i see myself as perfect or more then average ,

but i am offended that they would expect me to accept a reason as plainly an excuse as that ... as if to underhandedly call me dumb or to say it doesnt matter just tell them something ...

you are players as am i and we asked for the races addition but this excuse seemed a player wide slap in the face to those who asked and did not ask alike .

put a hyur next to a rygo and nose skin color arm length and general size are the only differences.

[Shougun]

Can edit a post to get around the character limit (write up your post, make a post, and then paste in the content via an edit - dont lose the original though would be embarrassing to lose what you need to place in the edit lol).

Personal imo on the next race is something different, or go around and make more customization options to the current ones. Different would be like a Ronso, Charr, not the standard fabulous thing.

More customization options could be new clans to the current races, maybe a "wild" clan to each race, miqote with the soft peach fuzz cat ish face, Au Ru with stronger resemblance to their concept art, or the more obvious of course like new face options, more hairs maybe some more natural curly/wavy hair, horns, beards, chest hair, more and more powerful sliders..

At least personally I feel the game has a signifcant surplus of cute, soft, perfection, and or cuddly and needs more mean, dark, rough, less pristine pop star looks (most of the "tough" we see now is still pretty soft). Although I would note I've seen a lot of requests for Viera :P

[Jpec07]

Honestly, I don't mind, if it means they can beef up the core game to account for dropped PS3 support, and make another amazing, deep, engaging experience with Stormblood.

Sure, Viera would have been neat, but I am looking forward to seeing what improvements they can bring to the system in 4.0 and beyond.

In terms of development, a new race takes a TON of hours of work to accomplish, and makes the process of designing new gear that much more complicated. They would need to make sure customization works, do ALL of the animations (we're talking thousands of animations), adapt all existing gear to fit, and rigorously QA all of that effort. That is a lot of work, for what is actually a pretty small dev team (judging by the credits for Heavensward). I'd much rather have them focus on getting FATEs right, fully playtesting the new 8-man raid, making DoH and DoL progression interesting again, and any number of other improvements.

[Kit-Kat]

the general reason was was it was too similar to miqo'te to add in the game ....

That was the playerbase general opinion. The real reason is, from a developer point of view, it's a lot of work. First, designing both male and female with their animations and also for each job and combat. Then adapting every piece of gear in the game to their body shapes. On top of that, they added new jobs in an expansion, whis is also a lot of work. All that while maintaining your current patches work.

[Dustytome]

the general reason was was it was too similar to miqo'te to add in the game ....

The game designers have deemed it too similar. Your opinion differs, but that doesn't mean they are calling you stupid. Politely request they revisit the idea and show your support if it's something you would like. Personally I'd like to see another short race (small plump viera maybe?! YES!).

[ZioSerpe]

That was the playerbase general opinion. The real reason is, from a developer point of view, it's a lot of work. First, designing both male and female with their animations and also for each job and combat. Then adapting every piece of gear in the game to their body shapes. On top of that, they added new jobs in an expansion, whis is also a lot of work. All that while maintaining your current patches work.

See, even if I understand that point I find it to be rather weak one:
FFXIV is the only real competitor to the juggernaut that is World of Warcraft, if you really want to compete you need to at least try and match what they do, over the course of their expansion they added new races, improved the old ones, added customization. Now I do understand that is probably easier for WoW due to the different art style, but still, Square Enix is not exactly the indie company developing pixel games in the basement of your apartment building. They have the power to invest in the game, and if ou want to keep old players invested and find new players those are the sort of things you kinda have to do.

[RubenSnizzle]

You can always hope your furry needs will be met in 5.0. *sigh*

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

You can always hope your furry needs will be met in 5.0. *sigh*

Several calm, reasonable responses, and you're the one guy to make the uncalled for statement. Classy.

[Shurrikhan]

I've scant interest in a new race, let alone one as similar as Viera, especially if they're going to be foisted onto us haphazardly like the Au'ra were. Added options are nice. Bare minimal context to excuse said options, when the means of addition (e.g. a race) would normally encourage or even require deep context -- not so much.

Improvements to clipping and cloth physics, so that our robes are no longer extended as if by wire meshes beneath to make them as awkwardly puffed out as possible, on the other hand, would be a damn good reason to come back for Stormblood.