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    Arutan's Avatar
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    Drae Wellenbrecher
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    What about just not adding viera?
    Bunny suit is enough.
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    Alexis Kitsune
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    that feeling all the negetive people are feeling right now about the race that is what people recive for being negetive for no reason ... its not popular it doesnt gain favor and feels horrid and embarrasing when its taouted ... now lets see just how many use the race to transition to hypocritical
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    Ley Crimsonriver
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    Quote Originally Posted by SorceressVal View Post
    that feeling all the negetive people are feeling right now about the race that is what people recive for being negetive for no reason ... its not popular it doesnt gain favor and feels horrid and embarrasing when its taouted ... now lets see just how many use the race to transition to hypocritical
    You just necroed a post from 2017 good job
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    Ayleen Estheim
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    Quote Originally Posted by SorceressVal View Post
    the general reason was was it was too similar to miqo'te to add in the game ....
    That was the playerbase general opinion. The real reason is, from a developer point of view, it's a lot of work. First, designing both male and female with their animations and also for each job and combat. Then adapting every piece of gear in the game to their body shapes. On top of that, they added new jobs in an expansion, whis is also a lot of work. All that while maintaining your current patches work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kit-Kat View Post
    That was the playerbase general opinion. The real reason is, from a developer point of view, it's a lot of work. First, designing both male and female with their animations and also for each job and combat. Then adapting every piece of gear in the game to their body shapes. On top of that, they added new jobs in an expansion, whis is also a lot of work. All that while maintaining your current patches work.
    See, even if I understand that point I find it to be rather weak one:
    FFXIV is the only real competitor to the juggernaut that is World of Warcraft, if you really want to compete you need to at least try and match what they do, over the course of their expansion they added new races, improved the old ones, added customization. Now I do understand that is probably easier for WoW due to the different art style, but still, Square Enix is not exactly the indie company developing pixel games in the basement of your apartment building. They have the power to invest in the game, and if ou want to keep old players invested and find new players those are the sort of things you kinda have to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZioSerpe View Post
    See, even if I understand that point I find it to be rather weak one:
    FFXIV is the only real competitor to the juggernaut that is World of Warcraft, if you really want to compete you need to at least try and match what they do, over the course of their expansion they added new races, improved the old ones, added customization. Now I do understand that is probably easier for WoW due to the different art style, but still, Square Enix is not exactly the indie company developing pixel games in the basement of your apartment building. They have the power to invest in the game, and if ou want to keep old players invested and find new players those are the sort of things you kinda have to do.
    If we're about to compare WoW and FFXIV, WoW doesn't even come close to the graphics/detail on character complexity. Their animations are really simple and repeated on combat for different attacks, only things that change are the attack particles/effect. And the amount of work it needs compared to a FFXIV character modeling is way less.
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    Misutoraru Valkyrie
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kit-Kat View Post
    If we're about to compare WoW and FFXIV, WoW doesn't even come close to the graphics/detail on character complexity. Their animations are really simple and repeated on combat for different attacks, only things that change are the attack particles/effect. And the amount of work it needs compared to a FFXIV character modeling is way less.
    i think
    there are things way more important waiting to improve/fix than adding another Hyur-Animal hybird race
    and if they going for some very different race, like a beastmen, they would have to model existing equipment, mount, emote etc for a new race, those resource could be use in better way like improving the some CoL thing, big job balance patch...etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by Misutoraru View Post
    i think
    there are things way more important waiting to improve/fix than adding another Hyur-Animal hybird race
    and if they going for some very different race, like a beastmen, they would have to model existing equipment, mount, emote etc for a new race, those resource could be use in better way like improving the some CoL thing, big job balance patch...etc
    Gee I am so done with this argument.
    They are not an hyur-animal hybrid, if they were I'd have no intrest in it, but their body type is different, Viera body type should similar to elezeen, but hopefully not looking like transgenders...
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    Kyuuen Queles
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZioSerpe View Post
    See, even if I understand that point I find it to be rather weak one:
    FFXIV is the only real competitor to the juggernaut that is World of Warcraft, if you really want to compete you need to at least try and match what they do, over the course of their expansion they added new races, improved the old ones, added customization. Now I do understand that is probably easier for WoW due to the different art style, but still, Square Enix is not exactly the indie company developing pixel games in the basement of your apartment building. They have the power to invest in the game, and if ou want to keep old players invested and find new players those are the sort of things you kinda have to do.
    WoW is a rather poor example. The only times you can list when they released new PC races was WoW > BC with Blood Elves/Draenei and Cata > MoP with Goblin/Worgen and Pandaren. Considering the game came out 13 year ago that averages out to a new PC race/s every four-ish years.
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    Last edited by Kyuuen; 04-06-2017 at 11:50 AM.

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    Ast Eryut
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZioSerpe View Post
    See, even if I understand that point I find it to be rather weak one:
    FFXIV is the only real competitor to the juggernaut that is World of Warcraft, if you really want to compete you need to at least try and match what they do, over the course of their expansion they added new races, improved the old ones, added customization. Now I do understand that is probably easier for WoW due to the different art style, but still, Square Enix is not exactly the indie company developing pixel games in the basement of your apartment building. They have the power to invest in the game, and if ou want to keep old players invested and find new players those are the sort of things you kinda have to do.
    Agree completely
    If the competition starts to outshine you, you'll have to find a way to match what they're doing.

    Yoshi is being too comfortable, but the moment another game does things better they'll have to consider it adding top requests to the game (mid content, new race, more customization).

    FFXIV is doing great and I'm happy, but things never stay the same. If they don't plan for the future they might be blindsided.
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