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  1. #151
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    technole's Avatar
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    Thea Sitori
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vaer View Post
    They're trying to stretch what they have like crazy. They are trying to funnel people into Alexander Savage, Diadem, keeping the relic still a good weapon so people still spend time making it (By capping the alexander gear for i260 and still no i270 dip without going into Savage) and Zurvan weapons relevant. Unlocking the scripture cap would devalue Dun Scaith drops as well.

    They could have unlocked scripture and dun scaith gear, but leave the weekly upgrade items locked for now since you aren't going to get above 260 without those and unlock those some time down the line to keep Savage worth doing.

    People are still farming Savage at least on Primal so it is somewhat working. I've noticed queue times have gone up for roulettes so I think people are taking breaks and playing other games like Persona 5 now.
    Pretty much spot-on, although the scripture cap will likely stay in-place until SB. YoshiP said they wanted to double the cap much sooner this go-around to allow people to gear more alts. This is perfect, so I can fill-in the gaps on my last jobs to gear-up like Monk that have a high amount of scrip gear over Alex Savage for best-in-slot.

    Much of the crowd is missing the part about Zurvan EX i265 weapons are available at free-will if they put in the time to do that content. Aside from clearing A11S for a gobdip. It'd be silly to give away the i270 gobbip in the casual raid and obsolete that content. The Zurvan bird drop rate was increased twice and there is a 99 turn-in now. There isn't a better time to get every bird if one hasn't already.

    I do agree this game is thinning out a bit, even PF Savage farms aren't as plenty as the first days but that's probably people getting all the drops/pages they need instead of having to rely only on RNG drops like we did in Final Coil.
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    Last edited by technole; 04-10-2017 at 03:34 AM.

  2. #152
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    Bourne_Endeavor's Avatar
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Nixxe View Post
    It's rather obvious that you're not taking the time to make sure you understand what I'm saying before rushing to swat it down.
    I understand it fine. You don't think removing all loot and tomestone restrictions with Stormblood will have a detrimental effect on player incentive. The difference is, I disagree-- something you don't seem to appreciate with these silly little remarks. If you have a point, then make it.
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    Last edited by Bourne_Endeavor; 04-10-2017 at 10:04 AM.

  3. #153
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    Nixx Delumi
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    I understand it fine. You don't think removing all loot and tomestone restrictions with Stormblood will have a detrimental effect on player incentive. The difference is, I disagree-- something you don't seem to appreciate with these silly little remarks. If you have a point, then make it.
    So yeah, you don't understand the point. As far as I can tell, you haven't understood a single one of my posts, really. I'm speaking in a very plain and straightforward manner, so if you don't get it now, I see little reason to think I can change that from my end.
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  4. #154
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    If only they could remove the cap on the machi weekly. Only thing that limits me from doing anything, really. Cap can stay at 900, doesn't matter for me, i can barely reach 700 in a week lol.
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  5. #155
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixxe View Post
    So yeah, you don't understand the point. As far as I can tell, you haven't understood a single one of my posts, really. I'm speaking in a very plain and straightforward manner, so if you don't get it now, I see little reason to think I can change that from my end.
    You haven't made a single one since your first response and have instead resorted to childish ad hominems. If you actually have one, which I suspect you don't, make it.
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  6. #156
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    Xixi Eclipse
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    Ravana
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    At this stage, I'd prefer to be getting all jobs/classes into the best gear/weapons ready for SB - if the arr-hw change was anything to go by, I'd rather be in a position to choose a new main or concentrate more/less on craft gather. The tome limit raise was helpful, but still having locks like dun scaith gear, or the farthings, or the alex weapon drop seems pointless at this stage. For DOL/DOH nothing has changed, they are still at eye-dropper stage. I'm assuming we'll see one more update where it will be free-for-all, but time is runing out for that to be useful.
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  7. #157
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Nicodemus_Mercy View Post
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    Again, i am not fully against your PoV. The funny part in our Discussion is that everyone has his own principle and i wont say that yours is wrong and for me, my PoV is as valid as yours. If it is true what you are writing with 2 decades, i can say i started Playing MMORPGs 18 Years ago, more then 10 Years Raiding so i would say we are nearly on the same experience.

    I dont know if you want to understand me or my pov, or just find it fun to discuss about something which isnt really necassary to do, but ill give you an example out of my RL.

    My GF working as Nurse she did the 3 Years education here in our Country. I did the 1 Years education as Nurse, we both work at the same Place, she is allowed to do more then i do, but our Monthly Gain is about 200€ difference and she has alot of more Work. I dont see me doin another 2 Years of School just because of 200€ lol. - to make it short, the benefits are not worth doin it. And thats the whole Point of my PoV incase of Ilevel and Raiding.

    My Point of View is in no way "poor", its just the experience which Forms a Person and his personality.

    If i want to be nearly equal to everyoneelse i would go and Play something like GW2 (dont know if its changed over time and with the Expansion) in Terms of MMOs and would go Play League of Legends/Dota or CS or Playerunknowns Battlegrounds etc, etc.

    Other MMORPGs like WoW (which i am not a big fan from) also pushed the Raid community aswell give them an higher Ilevel, alot more Effects and Seteffects to the Gear and still Keep the non-raiders busy in case of Gear Progression. Before u argue that WoW losing Subs over and over. WoW is old and still be played by an wide audience of Players. I am pretty sure that if Blizzard would stop to melk the WoW Playerbase and would recreate a new Kind of WoW that XIV would suffer under it.

    I like XIV in Terms of Storytelling and... thats it. i just came back a few weeks ago after a 2 Years "break" from the Game, it will end the same as it was in Heavensward, ill have my mainjob maxed out in SB withing a week, fully Geared couze of Hunts, will do the first Primals on ex and then ill afkshire all day Long.

    But i can accept the fact, that this game isnt for me as old School MMO Player anymore. Ill just do what i enjoy (which is basicly the Story) and then i am out again and go Play anyhtingelse until a Gamedesigner come over and Show me a game which i can actually call Home again thats life
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  8. #158
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    Ririta Rita
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Arkune View Post
    My GF working as Nurse she did the 3 Years education here in our Country. I did the 1 Years education as Nurse, we both work at the same Place, she is allowed to do more then i do, but our Monthly Gain is about 200€ difference and she has alot of more Work. I dont see me doin another 2 Years of School just because of 200€ lol. - to make it short, the benefits are not worth doin it. And thats the whole Point of my PoV incase of Ilevel and Raiding.

    My Point of View is in no way "poor", its just the experience which Forms a Person and his personality.
    If you're at the point of comparing it to work, maybe it's time to admit that you people simply don't enjoy raiding.
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  9. #159
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    Boko Toloko
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    Shiva
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Scriptures should be supposed to be bonus gear from instances runs, not a gearing up path. Otherwise, any other gearing up methods would become trivial since you could cheese the whole loot system by farming Scripts that you're assured to get after each instance. If you want to gear up, you have to look for all ways to get gear.

    And even with the lockout, gearing up is relatively easy and fast.
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    Last edited by BokoToloko; 04-10-2017 at 06:51 PM.

  10. #160
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    Light Khah
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    Moogle
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    Arcanist Lv 91
    Quote Originally Posted by Synrin View Post
    Because all of a sudden it would create a huge difference between those who can and those who cannot put a certain amount of time into the game. Oh you don't have the time to get the whole set in a week? Woah, noob, you aren't welcome to our party.... And such. Which isn't even far-fetched considering this is an MMO. But I have since decided that this is much better;
    But the difference is already here. Someone that can log in more hours will be able to reach the weekly limit and someone that can only play for two days a week might not reach it thus will fall behind. I just cant believe that suddenly without a limit many people would start to kick someone if they dont have a certain amount of gear. There will always be those bad apples but should the rest of the player base be punished with a lock out just because there could be some bad peoples out there?
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    Letter from the Producer LIVE Part IX Q&A Summary (10/30/2013)
    Q: Will there be any maintenance fees or other costs for housing, besides the cost of the land and house?
    A: In older MMOs, such as Ultima Online, there was a house maintenance fee you had to pay weekly, but in FFXIV: ARR we decided against this system. Similarly, these older MMOs also had a system where your house would break down if you didn’t log in after a while in order to have you continue your subscription, but this is a thing of the past and we won't have any system like that.

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