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    Nicodemus Mercy
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    Quote Originally Posted by bswpayton View Post
    But you are acting like the gap is so outstanding tho you and other people seem to think that, someone suggested what raid gear should of been 275 and shire gear should of been 270. Thats not even a huge gap at all, I could see if non raid gear in storm blood was 300 and raid gear was 340 just throwing out numbers here now thats something to complain about. But five or ten ilvls higher for doing higher level content isnt even an issue to want the exact same thing is greed and entitlement imo.

    If someone got mad at a five ilvl gap then they simply just dont know what it means to be a winner are to be the best at something. Raiders would not turn someone away if someone had max non raid gear that was only five ilvls lower than them wearing raid gear. Perfect example would be being geared in all dun scathe gear and Ive done some raids and nobody is kicking anyone for not having the same gear as them. You would have an argument if the gap was 15 to 20 ilvls higher for raiders now that would be wrong, but a mere five ilvls wouldn't really matter and it would reward those whom deserve it for putting in the work.
    You still haven't said WHY the raid gear needs to be higher ilvl than non-raid gear. I'm not acting like that suggested gap is outstanding. You're making an assumption there. Simply put... there is NO NEED FOR, nor any benefit from, a gap at all, large or small.

    If that 5 ilvl gap isn't such a big deal, then why ask for it at all? You're saying non-raiders shouldn't get mad at a 5 ilvl gap in gear... I'm saying raiders shouldn't get mad at a 0 gap ilvl in gear. Your argument works just as well against your point as it does for it, making it a poor argument in the first place.

    My argument isn't about how big the gap is, but rather that there is no need for a gap at all. There is no benefit to having raiders be the "haves" and the non-raiders being the "have nots" when it comes to player power, one of the primary motivators to play in the first place. But there are quantifiable benefits from doing the opposite and SE Seems to agree.

    Those raiders "putting in the work" are already rewarded as I've previously mentioned and you've still managed to ignore. They get rewarded with gear FASTER, they get rewarded with unique appearances to their gear, they get rewarded with unique titles, they get rewarded with unique mounts, they get rewarded with the satisfaction of beating the hard content. Why do they need even more reward on top of all of that? Please give me an answer to that.
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    Last edited by Nicodemus_Mercy; 04-08-2017 at 01:56 AM.
    How many men am I involved with? Well that depends... do you mean men as in males? Or just midlanders?