Please remove the weekly lock out of stuff

[Skivvy]

But again as I asked the person above earlier, I play many hours a day like all day sometimes Im in a long distance relationship so I like to avoid temptations by just sittin at home playing ff 14 are relaxing. Thats a side point but again if you have 270 gear and you have no desire to even do alex normal, or any extreme primals, and the furthest you will go as far as content is the two ex dungeons then you have no need for the gear.

Yes you may want it but I see no need for SE to remove the cap for players that are casual that if you ask them hey do you wana run some harder content the answer is always no. But they will gladly do roulette and things of that nature then its just really no reason for you to have said gear other than just wanting it. There is no lore cap and you can do dungeons with just lore gear and be perfectly overpowered.

That's a tricky question honestly. As mentioned, I do consider myself a casual player. I'm not really into the coil/alex style raids, but I did always enjoy the 24 raids and some extreme fights. But even with being a casual player, if I am going to play a job, I want to bring my best to the table. That is just my playstyle. Can players survive dungeons and other lighter content in minimum iLvl gear? Of course. But to me, it makes my time more enjoyable when I'm not barely scraping by.

It feels like you're pretty much telling a good chunk of the playerbase that gear doesn't really matter. If that's the case, why bother spending our time running dungeons for tomes? What then is the main source of content that SE is providing the casual player since they don't really have a need to gear up that much? And if gear is so unimportant, why bother having caps in the first place since the casual player may not even bother taking advantage of it?

I'd have to look up the charts, but awhile back they had posted a graph showing how many people had cleared the latest raids. The number was incredibly tiny. We obviously have no way of seeing the full picture, but that does seem to imply a bit that only a small percentage of players are really dedicated to clearing "endgame" raids (coil/alex/etc).

As it is now, at least judging by threads that always pop up, a good number of people who rush the new content end up unsubbing after a month anyway. So who is this cap really good for?

[bswpayton]

That's a tricky question honestly. As mentioned, I do consider myself a casual player. I'm not really into the coil/alex style raids, but I did

Not exactly tho like you said you dont like the grind, but ok lets say that the end of your content journey is the 24 man raids and the current ex dungeons. For both of these you can easily get away with lore gear with a few extra pieces with a higher item level.

Lore is unlimited right now so you can have all you jobs inbetween 240 to 250 range you could do all the content that you said you enjoyed like that. So then what for your playstyle not venturing out into other content if all your jobs are ilvl 240 - 250 what else are you going to do in game. I dont no this to be the case but judging from how you say you have unsubbed etc then Id gather nothing really until stormblood, just because shire has a higher ilvl doesn't mean that if you max all your jobs out in it that if you stay on a certain level of content that you would stay subbed any longer than you normally would.

[Skivvy]

Not exactly tho like you said you dont like the grind, but ok lets say that the end of your content journey is the 24 man raids and the current ex dungeons. For both of these you can easily get away with lore gear with a few extra pieces with a higher item level.

Lore is unlimited right now so you can have all you jobs inbetween 240 to 250 range you could do all the content that you said you enjoyed like that. So then what for your playstyle not venturing out into other content if all your jobs are ilvl 240 - 250 what else are you going to do in game. I dont no this to be the case but judging from how you say you have unsubbed etc then Id gather nothing really until stormblood, just because shire has a higher ilvl doesn't mean that if you max all your jobs out in it that if you stay on a certain level of content that you would stay subbed any longer than you normally would.

Fair questions

I think my displeasure comes from a few sources within the game, and they all feed off of each other and have landed me where I am now. And also, I can only speak for myself of course. I know plenty of people are completely content with the game, I'm happy for them! So take this all with a grain of salt.

My (very condensed) transition over the last few years has been:

-I want to play a few jobs! (WHM, BRD, BLM), and I definitely spent a lot of time gearing the first two jobs
-After a few major patches hit, and full gear sets were constantly needing to be replaced, this is when the monotony started kicking in
-Got tired of running the same dungeons and raids over and over again for months at a time
-Dropped down to only a single job because I just couldn't do the long grind for all the other jobs any longer
-Found other jobs I was interested in, but decided not to pursue because I decided I did not want to spend the next several months gearing jobs only to be hit with a new patch & tomes and have to start fresh.
-Stopped doing dailies on my WHM because what was the point? I could get by on whatever gear I had.
-Boredom continues since I've lost the will to battle the gear treadmill, which then killed my desire to try new jobs, etc.
-Unsub

There we go! And really not trying to be dramatic, that's just how it's gone for me. Honestly, this probably just isn't the game for me anymore. I enjoyed it when it first came out, and I still really want to enjoy it, but there are a ton of little things like this that have pushed me to the point where I only sub now and then.

And I think I went off topic to your question Going back to that, again, I really do like gear progression. Even as a casual. As I mentioned earlier, I really do try to gear & play my jobs to the best I can, and when I'm hit with caps and (IMO, unecessary) delays, it's just a bit disheartening to me. Do I NEED max Ilvl? Of course not. But no one really does.

For me personally, removing the caps would actually make me excited to try leveling new jobs. i have a bunch that I would like to try out, but I just don't want to deal with gearing it in the current set-up. I'd be spending far more time in game levleing those jobs and working on the gear.

[Sylvaneste]

Fair questions

I think my displeasure comes from a few sources within the game........

This is exactly why I created this thread/request. Like I said in my OP, I just wish to play the game, today i may wish to tank, tomorrow I may wish to heal, next day dps, but once you have done your weekly raid, your weekly scrips, etc, It gets discouraging to want to log back in and play a class just to play.

[bswpayton]

This is exactly why I created this thread/request. Like I said in my OP, I just wish to play the game, today i may wish to tank, tomorrow I may wish to heal, next day dps, but once you have done your weekly raid, your weekly scrips, etc, It gets discouraging to want to log back in and play a class just to play.

But what your missing tho is so far at least form what Ive read everyone who doesnt like the gear grind has mention that they have unsubbed. While people who grind gear and dont mind it are the ones that arent taking breaks and leaving for months at time. So why change anything for people who only like to play the game in moderation?

[MomomiMomi]

But what your missing tho is so far at least form what Ive read everyone who doesnt like the gear grind has mention that they have unsubbed. While people who grind gear and dont mind it are the ones that arent taking breaks and leaving for months at time. So why change anything for people who only like to play the game in moderation?

They only play in moderation because of the locks. It isn't a grind. It's a lock. You're left with nothing left to do. That's not a grind.

[Iromi]

They only play in moderation because of the locks. It isn't a grind. It's a lock. You're left with nothing left to do. That's not a grind.

Same for me too. I'd play so much more without lock outs. 1.x had no lockouts...I played sooo much haha it was fun. Now it's just log in, AFK...chat a little, log out. :/

[bswpayton]

They only play in moderation because of the locks. It isn't a grind. It's a lock. You're left with nothing left to do. That's not a grind.

People play in moderation because of their prospective, others have mention plenty of other ways to gear your job. Gear is like candy in this game my jobs ilvl go up almost daily because the game gives us gear at this point. Its when casuals limit themselves to only dungeons is what gets boring, you are canceling out so much of the game the actual endgame thats outside of the story.

Dont say its nothing to do in the game when you have done even the alex normal story line. When you want even do the hw primals, when you want even consider crafting, or gathering. Are if you dont have all the mounts in the game and you dont try to get them if you like them but dont want to put in any effort to get them. People unsub because they stay in the comfort zone, I know at least on my server many of my friends who raid are having a good time running content maxing their jobs out to ilvl 270. If your last stop on the list of content is a dungeon then yea I can see you burning out pretty fast.

[Istaru]

But what your missing tho is so far at least form what Ive read everyone who doesnt like the gear grind has mention that they have unsubbed. While people who grind gear and dont mind it are the ones that arent taking breaks and leaving for months at time. So why change anything for people who only like to play the game in moderation?

WRONG I have consistently played this game from 1.0, I have over 600 days of playtime.
I DESPISE the weekly lockout.
I LOATHE the lockouts in their present form.
I WANT to progress on my jobs to what I consider to be an acceptable level.
In the last week alone, I have played: WAR, DRK, WHM, BRD, MNK, DRG, BLM and SMN.

In my opinion, how low the caps are set, in addition to the lack of meaningful content chases away many more people than it helps to retain.

At this point, I am mostly apathetic towards gearing and progression in this game. The caps have choked my passion for this game to the point that it's on life support. I don't do anything anymore for the sake of progression, because I don't give one {redacted} anymore much less two {redacted}. I used to, I don't anymore. I don't even do EX anymore. I don't know how long it will be until I feel the same way about the game in general.

[bswpayton]

WRONG I have consistently played this game from 1.0, I have over 600 days of playtime.
I DESPISE the weekly lockout.
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I was referencing the two people who mention leaving or subbing off and on the op said that they took an eight month break. And I said Id def want the cap higher 450 is pretty stupid imo 1000 would make alot more sense.

@MomomiMomi the op was talkin about now also tho because they are just now coming back but complaining that its no unlimited cap so they can gear up every to 260, 450 cap as it stands is stupid but no cap at all is just as bad to it has to be a middle ground in an mmo type environment