Raid gear set bonus

[Vulcwen]

Oh not that they're worried about players mixing bits and pieces of tomestone and raid drop gear, more that Yoshida has indicated that he feels the current system is already potentially *too complex.* Yyyyyeah..

Yoshida sees that people don't understand the system, thus it must be too complex (sigh). He also doesn't understand it himself...
The problem is that the game gives no information about what things actually do numerically, so people can't figure out priorities on their own, but instead must rely on people willing to spend a lot of time (and gil) to figure out what those stats do.

Anyway, gear in this game is still nothing more than a gating system. It's boring, but it doesn't need to be interesting because the game is more content-focused anyway.

[Aylis]

Yoshida sees that people don't understand the system, thus it must be too complex (sigh). He also doesn't understand it himself...

He also did say in a really early live letter that any game that required him to expel a large amount of effort for a single goal is not a game he would play. I'd love to see gear sets, procs and triggered effects added to gear to make things interesting. I don't see it ever happening though based on a few Yoshida comments.

[Ririta]

More evidence on why raiding was the biggest mistake of the genre.

[Zumi]

Considering how much BiS mixes and matches gear, I'm not really sure how well this would go over.

That is the thing with set bonuses you wear some pieces that may not have the bests stats to get a bonus.

[Naunet]

Considering how much BiS mixes and matches gear, I'm not really sure how well this would go over.

It would make decisions more complicated than just looking at raw stats at least, when you have to decide if the set bonus or better itemization is more important. That's a good thing.

nerf the set bonus.

Or deactivate them. But yeah, plenty of ways to prevent people from feeling like they have to farm for old gear to obtain an OP set bonus.

[RitsukoSonoda]

Considering how much BiS mixes and matches gear, I'm not really sure how well this would go over.

I would actually welcome this because simply because BiS is nothing but crunching numbers on a paper to min/max the most desirable stats. Having a set bonus that offered bonuses that weren't just simple numbers on paper but additional traits, effects, or non standard stat card bonuses would make people think more on how they want to gear their character. It was this kind of gear build flexibility I liked in FFXI and currently feel like FFXIV would be better if it were added.


However I'm also one of the people that feel like SE went a bit too far when they went the route of simplifying the game and as such it could do with some of the complexity of the previous MMO being brought back.

[ReplicaX]

My issue isn't a set gear bonus or the system inplace.

It would be the community forcing pointless bias on how someone should gear for specific content and a false sense of requirement of said gear.

[alimdia]

My issue isn't a set gear bonus or the system inplace.

It would be the community forcing pointless bias on how someone should gear for specific content and a false sense of requirement of said gear.

I mean, if certain set effect is stronger than another there's little discussion to be had, you don't see anyone questioning whether ninjas should wear dex or vit accessories, you always go for the strongest option, it's not a false sense of requirement nor its pointless.

[ReplicaX]

I mean, if certain set effect

Has nothing to do with common sense stats for specific jobs. Referring to Job Specific Set Bonuses that can enhance actions like the example from Zumi:

Would be nice to have raid set bonuses that have an effect

Some examples
monk 2 piece - demolish lasts 30 secs, 4 piece - grease lighting 4
Pld 2 piece flash now does 100 potency damage, 4 piece clemency is instant cast

If sets like this existed in Raid Gear. You really don't think some of the community would demand it in midcore content such as SB Ex Primals in PF/RF? Even though it can be tackled easily with alternate gear outside Raids by players with good skill. As if ilvl bloating isn't already a common practice.

[thegreatonemal]

They are dumb in general and tend to only give really good effects when you have most of the set depending on the class some of them suck. a waste of time that changes nothing