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    TristanBlane's Avatar
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    Crucius Lapin
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    Siren
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Anarnee View Post
    I doubt it will be cura or curaga. The spells are Cura and Curaga in the JPN version... They just translated them as II and III in our version... cause they didn't thing it would be obvious enough.
    Ugh I absolutely LOATHE the I II III nonsense with the spells!! I grew up with Cure , Cura, Curaga playing the old final fantasy games and kingdom hearts ! So I was a little thrown off when I started playing FFXIV and saw these numbers instead? But whateves its a small detail I gotta live with.
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    Last edited by TristanBlane; 04-06-2017 at 10:47 PM.

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    dragonseth07's Avatar
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    Ratithgar Jovasch
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by TristanBlane View Post
    Ugh I absolutely LOATHE the I II III nonsense with the spells!! I grew up with Cure , Cura, Curaga playing the old final fantasy games and kingdom hearts ! So I was a little thrown off when I started playing FFXIV and saw these numbers instead? But whateves its a small detail I gotta live with.
    SE thought the names would be too confusing for NA players (we're too dumb for it).

    Before judging that too negatively, think back to the last 24-man you ran and the kinds of people who actually play this game.
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    Neophyte's Avatar
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    Mim Silmaril
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    Phoenix
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by dragonseth07 View Post
    SE thought the names would be too confusing for NA players (we're too dumb for it).

    Before judging that too negatively, think back to the last 24-man you ran and the kinds of people who actually play this game.

    It's simply way easier to recognize. In german localization we still have those names, which makes Sophia a bit harder.

    Because it's more difficult to distinguish between Blitzga and Blitzra than between Thunder II and Thunder III, also it's limited.

    I mean, FF11 had both, Curaga IV for example. Why not Curagaka, Curagaraka oder Curafasagaka? The suffix-system isn't that good for a still evolving system.

    The Council of Magi was right:
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    Proceedings of the 284th Convocation of the Amdapori Council of Magi:
    A Vote was called to settle on a Name for a potent and newly-fashioned Healing-Spell. Being that said Healing-Spell was an Augmentation of Curaga, erst the most potent Healing-Spell, the following Names were proposed by the Council. Curago, Curaza, Curaja, Curagura Finding the afore-written Names duly lacking in Gravity and the existing Hierarchy of Spell-Names needlessly abstruse, the Council did Vote by a margin of Seventeen to Three to do away with existing Naming-Conventions entirely and adopt a new system of numerical Spell-Names, as writ below, to be used henceforth. Cure I, Cure II, Cure III, Cure IV[/spoiler]
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    Last edited by Neophyte; 04-07-2017 at 12:21 AM.

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    Stitches1974's Avatar
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    Velt Starcaller
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    Bard Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Anarnee View Post
    I doubt it will be cura or curaga. The spells are Cura and Curaga in the JPN version... They just translated them as II and III in our version... cause they didn't thing it would be obvious enough.

    And also, I think they're saying its a mixture. So its not like its able to use both magic types, Red magic is a mixture of the two and it will be a DPS focused magic.
    Considering RDM is a pure DPS, I doubt it will have anything like that. Maybe a small heal like SMN at best.

    F: Red Mage is a pure DPS?
    Y: Yes, it’s a pure DPS.


    F: Some players might have been surprised with the fact that Red Mage will be DPS.
    Y: I also have the image of the Red Mage being a hybrid job between Black and White Mage. However, we had to fit it into the FFXIV formula. Otherwise, it might turn out as a job that isn’t too useful. FFXIV is a standalone title in the FF series, so while keeping the essential roots of the Red Mage job in general, it will be unique to XIV, as well. You will see it as a new type of Red Mage.

    http://gamerescape.com/2016/12/26/fa...festival-2016/
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    Last edited by Stitches1974; 04-06-2017 at 11:00 PM.

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    Blufnix Greedalox
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    Diabolos
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    Machinist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    So out of boredom....

    Have you prepared yourself for the possibility of Samurai and/or Red Mage facing a "Machinist syndrome"?

    "Machinist Syndrome" is basically a Job has been built up with hype for years and people have certain expectations for this Job only to be disappointed and driven away from the Job reach a point the Job becomes one of the lowest or is the lowest played Job in the game.
    Considering Yoshi P said that both adding a job mid game and 3 jobs during the expansion nearly killed the team. We don't have to worry about either of those things, I think think your worries are misplaced.
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    Vorx's Avatar
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    Vorx Dargo
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    Lamia
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    I'd be just happy with a revival skill, its to much strain for healers to keep the tank alive but worry about someone else who just got KOed by an attack they failed to dodge. Plus revival spells take so much MP the Healer is left with an extremely low amount after anyway.
    I personally feel DPS should of had a way to revive as well, not just Summoners too.
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    Ozzie Nyandias
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    Sargatanas
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Samurai I think will be fine. Red mage on the other hand, I feel is guaranteed to be doomed by bad design. You want your ranged dps in melee range pretty much never, It defeats one of the main reasons of having a ranged dps by crowding the dedicated melee, which is a no go in a lot of raid encounters. It could have animation lock when it gap closes for its melee attack giving it the loldrg curse. Once it's in melee range, it better have a move to immediately get back into ranged because that's where it will belong, and if it has to run back that's a lot of wasted dps unless it's built like a summoner.

    Of course that's all just my initial speculation. I have no idea how it will play and I'm prepared and hoping to be pleasantly surprised.
    (Note: I never play dps, I only play tanks and heals, but I do raid lead, so I look at things from that perspective.)
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    Vorx Dargo
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    Lamia
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    In the showcase video the RDM is shown to attack then quickly jump back like the one Dragoon move before firing magic attack. So i think it will be ok, the range might turn out to be just Dragoon style jumps and all as well as magic attacks.
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    Dr Yeol
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    Ragnarok
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    Fisher Lv 100
    People have expectations for a certain job.

    People hated the change that happened to BRD. This hate got passed to MCH leading to less people trying the job.

    If SAM and RDM had complex rotation/opener (Based on most of our community, anything other than 1, 2, 3 is complicated and no clue what an opener is) they will not be popular and dropped.
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    "BAAAAAARD!" - 2018

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    CosmicKirby's Avatar
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    Lulumia Lumia
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    Balmung
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Yeol View Post
    People have expectations for a certain job.

    People hated the change that happened to BRD. This hate got passed to MCH leading to less people trying the job.

    If SAM and RDM had complex rotation/opener (Based on most of our community, anything other than 1, 2, 3 is complicated and no clue what an opener is) they will not be popular and dropped.
    Well, considering what they've shown of SAM, they are looking to be at least as complex as NIN or MNK. And very people play NIN properly, ditto for MNK. Though many can at least play them to par, considering their sub optimal rotations do at least respectable damage.
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