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    Well they do mention its a cross with White and Dark magic so maybe a healing just unique to them or something like Cura or Curega.
    But your right Dark was a DPS in FFXI, the Sam being a Tank, not so sure. I only ever seen people using it as a DPS. Still as i said we should be more worried about Sam, not much they can do to mess up RDM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vorx View Post
    Well they do mention its a cross with White and Dark magic so maybe a healing just unique to them or something like Cura or Curega.
    But your right Dark was a DPS in FFXI, the Sam being a Tank, not so sure. I only ever seen people using it as a DPS. Still as i said we should be more worried about Sam, not much they can do to mess up RDM.
    I can only realistically see them getting a token healing spell like clemency, if anything.

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    their preview if you haven't seen it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Averax View Post
    I can only realistically see them getting a token healing spell like clemency, if anything.

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    their preview if you haven't seen it.
    I imagine we'll be getting a Clemency of some sort, as well as one or two supporty style abilities. Think Eye for an Eye, or the like. Something to make them feel like they can heal and buff, while still being a DPS. Take NIN or MCH's vuln ups, and instead turn them into buffs they put on other party members, that could work. A bit more hands on than Battle Litany.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vorx View Post
    I'd be just happy with a revival skill, its to much strain for healers to keep the tank alive but worry about someone else who just got KOed by an attack they failed to dodge. Plus revival spells take so much MP the Healer is left with an extremely low amount after anyway.
    I personally feel DPS should of had a way to revive as well, not just Summoners too.
    I imagine with the Cross Class skill reworks we are getting. MCH will be getting Second Wind, and ALL caster DPS will either gain or lose the ability to res in combat like SMN can. But who knows?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmicKirby View Post
    I imagine with the Cross Class skill reworks we are getting. MCH will be getting Second Wind, and ALL caster DPS will either gain or lose the ability to res in combat like SMN can. But who knows?
    I hope so, as much as people hate it in the early runs i go (since i play as a Class i don't go over anything lvl 35) I find myself using cross skilled Revive a lot. Most healers are to focused on the tank so after the fight ends i try to revive if we're past half way mark. I actually get a lot of thank you comments.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vorx View Post
    Well they do mention its a cross with White and Dark magic so maybe a healing just unique to them or something like Cura or Curega.
    I think that's more of a lore explanation for what red magic is rather than saying them saying, "Hey, RDM will use BLM and WHM abilities!". As we saw from the trailer, RDM's animations don't look very similar to BLM and it maintains it's own style.

    Maybe they'll get something akin to clemency which will be relegated to "never used except for clutch situations" as using it regularly would be a DPS loss and, in general, healers can more than handle damage going out. Or they could get a skill similar to mantra allowing them to help their healers out without losing any personal DPS...but I'm not sure what they could do without making it an exact mantra copy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vorx View Post
    Well they do mention its a cross with White and Dark magic so maybe a healing just unique to them or something like Cura or Curega.
    But your right Dark was a DPS in FFXI, the Sam being a Tank, not so sure. I only ever seen people using it as a DPS. Still as i said we should be more worried about Sam, not much they can do to mess up RDM.
    I doubt it will be cura or curaga. The spells are Cura and Curaga in the JPN version... They just translated them as II and III in our version... cause they didn't thing it would be obvious enough.

    And also, I think they're saying its a mixture. So its not like its able to use both magic types, Red magic is a mixture of the two and it will be a DPS focused magic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anarnee View Post
    I doubt it will be cura or curaga. The spells are Cura and Curaga in the JPN version... They just translated them as II and III in our version... cause they didn't thing it would be obvious enough.

    And also, I think they're saying its a mixture. So its not like its able to use both magic types, Red magic is a mixture of the two and it will be a DPS focused magic.
    Right. A mixture meaning that Red Magic in this game is powered by both one's own aether (a la Black) and the aether of the environment around you (White). It'll be interesting to see what effects it will have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dragonseth07 View Post
    Right. A mixture meaning that Red Magic in this game is powered by both one's own aether (a la Black) and the aether of the environment around you (White). It'll be interesting to see what effects it will have.
    I am more curious about the Lore of Red Magic.

    We know so far White is limited to certain people who must be chosen but mostly only Padjal are chosen. Black Magic is mostly forbidden areas of magic for its pure destructive ability.

    This leaves the question on where did Red Magic comes from and how is it seen by the people of the World.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    I am more curious about the Lore of Red Magic.

    We know so far White is limited to certain people who must be chosen but mostly only Padjal are chosen. Black Magic is mostly forbidden areas of magic for its pure destructive ability.

    This leaves the question on where did Red Magic comes from and how is it seen by the people of the World.
    My money says Sharlayan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EdwinLi View Post
    I am more curious about the Lore of Red Magic.

    We know so far White is limited to certain people who must be chosen but mostly only Padjal are chosen. Black Magic is mostly forbidden areas of magic for its pure destructive ability.

    This leaves the question on where did Red Magic comes from and how is it seen by the people of the World.
    Aren't black magic those that draws the power from the void, while white magic, those that draws the power from nature?

    (talking about the magic itself, not being a white or black mage)
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