The Feast party formation should be based on rating AND job type, not just rating

[Mockingbird]

it also depends on who's in the pool of players currently queuing. there may be no other equivalent ranked ppl available.

The fact that it's rated means that this would be a better option anyway. As I said before I'd much rather queue for 30+ minutes and have an enjoyable match. Plus evening everything out would attract people to play more DPS characters, so I think it'd even itself out anyway.

[kensatsu]

i think like you, a gold heal should not fight a bronze heal for exemple. but it happen.
But like said before sch shield is not take in the final result.
If you see whm result to be 2 times the sch result in a match, it's normal.
But there also a issue you may watch as bard with the Sch.
If the Sch spam a lot Aldo shield , the mana will drop fast.
I suggest you to expect this, you may use your pvp regen mana skill sooner in this case.

[BloodRubyXII]

I'm levelling my summoner atm, think I made enough silvers/bronzes suffer playing DRK.

[Nidelia]

Well, they have their reason to do their matchmaking. The major problem is that the player base which do pvp is too small so you will have problem no matter what. The thing which is really bothering me, is that you are so much punished by not being healer. (Don't get me wrong, the burden on healer is high enough to be rewarded but still, other class are a bit too much punished I think.) Your queue time is way longer, so you need to spend 2-3 times more time for the same result as an healer. This is fine, tho it show how flawed the system is, they really need to find a counterweight to that in SB or it will be the same all over again. However, depending when you play in the season, then you cannot even queue at all as certain job (tried to do a bit of feast mid-s3,was unranked, range, the df just lie all the time with <5, 5, 7, 10, 15,20,>30min, then 40 min in the queue and still nothing.)

The real problem I have is that kind of unfair matchmaking, when you have absolutly 0 chance to win because your healer but you still lose the same amount of point, and as you said, the more you progress (or if you play out of peak time), the higher the chance that you will get a completly clueless healer which will make all the game and the queue a total waste, then the game make you lose the same ammount of point that if it was a fair match. (For exemple as silver, while I was writting that, I lost 3 games in a row, 31 points, one hour (not counting what is needed to recover the point bleed) because the system though it was fair to put completly clueless, useless people in my team (on time, healer, 2 times a melee both could have not being here, it would have being the same).

At least, reduce the point lose if you have this kind of situation (the system makes me lose 11 points even with the healer, it though that i was at my advantage with this newbie healer, like really?), because it is just infuriating. I know that people will say that it's already easy enough to gain point this day and that every idiots and their mother can rank diamound if they spam enough... well exactly, it doesn't matter anymore, so at least make that people are less pissed (for reason) with this useless ranking system.

[Mockingbird]

A Tank in full Makai gear who collected the Defence Kit, a Scholar in full Makai gear who was awarded the Participate in your first match in The Feast achievement and a Ninja with a mixture of Diadem gear... I can't work out why we didn't win this one:



I lost 8 points whilst these guys collectively lost nothing.

[Stormfur]

I don't even understand why things are tied to the group's outcome and not our own ability. I mean, obviously the ranking is tied to whether you (as a group) won or lost -- and the damage dealt/healed is there for everyone to see. It just seems so skewed against higher ranked players right from the start - and I get the idea of risk versus reward but tying the outcome to everyone's performance is crazy.

Could you imagine if that happened in raids? Sorry, you don't get your Alexandrian suit of armor because your bard only did X dps.