Sentinal is a thorn in our sides

[Molly_Millions]

maybe a combination of rampart cast by tank and sentinel.

hmm... what about a combination of decoy and sentinel plus no other actions for 15 sec unless your the tank?

[Orophin]

I still don't think people are going to be riding tanks that closely in threat that they are forced to do nothing during the time Sentinel is active.

[Krausus]

hmm... what about a combination of decoy and sentinel plus no other actions for 15 sec unless your the tank?

as much hate as tanks are gonna generate including the massive hate they pull with rampart and sentinel I dont think hate will be an issue unless it is already an issue pre hellfire. At that point though you just need more practice.

[NadienKirisame]

as much hate as tanks are gonna generate including the massive hate they pull with rampart and sentinel I dont think hate will be an issue unless it is already an issue pre hellfire. At that point though you just need more practice.

Wouldn't you just need decoy though to dodge the hellfire now? You know it is coming you pop decoy and it misses you. unless it is not counted as a ranged or magic attack...

the cat is bemused =-.-=

[Krausus]

not 100% sure but I dont think Decoy works with hellfire other wise it would have been preferred over sentinel to begin with.

[Orophin]

Yeah..somehow I think Decoy will only work for a physical or magical (think Thunder/Fire/etc.) attack. I think Hellfire falls into its own "Special Attack" category. It'd be kinda pointless for one ability to totally cancel out an attack meant to devastate parties. Sentinel just mitigated some of the damage, but didn't render the ability totally impotent.

[NadienKirisame]

It would be interesting if someone would test this out after the patch with the new abilities... I would but yeah if everyone in my LS reappears and we can do stuff I might try it...

The cat is bemused =-.-=

[Molly_Millions]

I've said it several times, but that enmity on sentinel makes me nervous. Assuming I'm not tanking, I'm gonna try decoy first.

[Orophin]

I've said it several times, but that enmity on sentinel makes me nervous. Assuming I'm not tanking, I'm gonna try decoy first.

Well I can't speak for Moogle, but at least in the case of the Ifrit, most people save Sentinel for an ill-timed eruption/plume or Hellfire. Out those 15 seconds, somehow I doubt you'll be doing anything for half of them due to movement or waiting for the Hellfire animation to finish and having Ifrit re-positioned.

[Molly_Millions]

Well I can't speak for Moogle, but at least in the case of the Ifrit, most people save Sentinel for an ill-timed eruption/plume or Hellfire. Out those 15 seconds, somehow I doubt you'll be doing anything for half of them due to movement or waiting for the Hellfire animation to finish and having Ifrit re-positioned.

Ideally that's how things will go down, but what about when a DD forgets to pop sentinel and needs a heal? It's not uncommon for that to happen.

On paper it looks like we'll still fare ok because of all the hate grabbing abilities that GLA has now, but what if they look better on paper than in reality?