Sentinal is a thorn in our sides

[OMEGA_HACK]

No, because to imply Sentinel + anything means your making the assumption of having a massive damage mitigation ability. Which might not be the case, the SAFEST approach would be for everyone to agree that these new abilities are COMPLETELY NEW, and like nothing we've seen thus far (since by their own definitions, they are). And that we'll just have to wait until 1.20 (12/14/11) to figure out what is what.

[Molly_Millions]

No, because to imply Sentinel + anything means your making the assumption of having a massive damage mitigation ability. Which might not be the case, the SAFEST approach would be for everyone to agree that these new abilities are COMPLETELY NEW, and like nothing we've seen thus far (since by their own definitions, they are). And that we'll just have to wait until 1.20 (12/14/11) to figure out what is what.

Holy crap, somebody gets it! Fact of the matter is everything is changing ability wise. We may as well toss that emnity chart out because most likely it won't be right. Since the point of this patch is to change the balance between classes, right now we must assume that's what will happen and therefore create new strategies.

[syntaxlies]

Can't we just agree that the new skill in 1.20 is basically Sentinel + Cadence combined into a new skill?

Because that's what's happening, basically. (Changes to the damage reduction and enmity generation notwithstanding)

yep, sounds about right. unlike cadence there is a active timer on it so you could get a couple ws outta it instead of one

[Rentahamster]

yep, sounds about right. unlike cadence there is a active timer on it so you could get a couple ws outta it instead of one

Yeah, so one could also think of it as a Sentinel + Warmonger - the AOE Taunt effect.

[Rentahamster]

It's still called "Sentinel", according to the Mog fight video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rPVbrnIDiI

[OMEGA_HACK]

Um..I take it you must read Japanese? Also who is to say they are using updated ability list? Its also says in the footer that this is all WIP (basically), could always be temp names.

Also just looked at the big move (deals ~2500 dmg) and none of the players had a massive damage reduction, they all took roughly the same 2500 damage give or take a bit. So while it might be Sentinel its not the same, either that or they are just trying to prove to the player base you don't need the ability to have fun, lol.

[Rentahamster]

Um..I take it you must read Japanese?

Um..Yes?

Its also says in the footer that this is all WIP (basically), could always be temp names.

Could be temp names. Or not. All I said was that according to the video, it's still called "Sentinel".

The AOE defense up move is also called "Rampart".

[Krausus]

/smiles guess what

[Rentahamster]

Seriously. I can't believe there was so much controversy over something as trivial as this.

[Engineer]

new patch notes up

Sentinal is obtainable at level 22!