Echo is here for all Alexander Savage turns and everything is uncapped. Why should people that don't raid suffer from doing a11s which is possibly one of the worst fights in game right now. If someone has high dps with echo it could make it super awkward to learn the fight for new players. I say this as someone that raids too. I find it unfair that people have to clear a11s to get their gobdip right now as progression groups are going through Zurvan > Alex savage 10 > and gobdip in 11s. If SE put gobdips in void ark and Mhach when turns became irrelevant why hasn't it still been implemented for Dun Scaith? Am I missing something here? If everything is uncapped... why is SE still forcing people to clear a11s for a single scripture upgrade? I've cleared all turns before this patch and dont even understand this either. Furthermore, if Alex is uncapped... why isn't proto ultima uncapped?