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  1. #11
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    Naria's Avatar
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    Naria Starcatcher
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    Sargatanas
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    While I wish that they had never opened the housing wards to personal housing (especially if the wanted the wards to feel alive and busy) and instead come up with a separate system, "shell" FCs have been around since the wards launched. The biggest step forward they could make to help spread the current resources would be to limit the amount of houses that could be owned by a single account going forward. Even if they grandfathered in multi-house owning accounts and still let a person have one FC house and one personal house per server it would prevent someone from snatching up nine houses in Shirogane on a single account (it is going to happen).

    I'm a FC leader and we have a house and I'm not the sole decorator of it. Personally, I wouldn't mind if they limited it to one house per account and therefore I couldn't have my own (which I don't) but I can understand why other FC owners don't feel the same.
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    Alexandre Hanrieaux
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Nobody on Balmung is gonna snatch up 9 houses, those houses are going to be gone in 5min flat. No time to log over onto alts and slog through the 2k+ person queue.
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  3. #13
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    Soki Yagami
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    Tonberry
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    Quote Originally Posted by Celef View Post
    And is pretty useless due to the fact that those zones are, almost all the time, empty
    Pretty much what I said, great idea that failed to live up to the hype because of numerous reasons.

    From the short video footage of Shirogane I highly doubt the housing system will be changed anytime soon...
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  4. #14
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    Cupcake Monster
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    I wish apartments were bigger. Maybe even have a balcony for people like me who likes to garden, and even have penthouses with multiple floors. It would help the housing situation.
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  5. #15
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    Lithium Ion
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    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 60

    Thoughts

    Instanced housing would be interesting with it being roughly the size of my medium house, and offered the same incentives as a ward at a fraction of the cost, or offer theme'd zones like waterfalls/caves or something.

    by having the wards FC only, can promise there would be more Shell FC's as Naria stated...get three friends to sign, level it up yourself buy you a house that can now be sold later, without having to demolish most assets. That being said best way to reduce overhead when crafting is to have ward access to all three market boards... cut your taxes and teleport fees considerably as well as being able to offer any items in any 3 city/states which can mean the difference of a sale.
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  6. #16
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    Lithium Ion
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    The rush for housing though is no joke, often your first and/or second plot pick will be purchased before you can even login to the new ward. The idea of resale would help free plots, if crazy inflation were regulated. I know some people only keep a sub to login before the demolish date just to keep the land. Though would also allow RMT to transfer vast amounts quickly by changing ownership without loss. So far best way to get housing would be to watch reddit for FC's selling. Just the mindset difference between Jap and NA/EU players.. We would rather work over time for a few big paydays then daily for a faster total income over say a year.

    Glamour and Housing being end game really does spur a lot of crafters and the economy as well, unless making raid items. Unless they make other avenues that players can pursue towards in-game wealth that don't require a constant grind to cap ... like scripts it'll be more of the same.
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  7. #17
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    Lodestone Bait
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rymm View Post
    Limiting housing to FCs would just increase the number of shell FCs.
    Oh, it would do that in part - but I very much doubt that it would get anywhere CLOSE to the competition player characters cause.

    We have 300k people in endgame alone. Even if you'd arbitrarily double the current amount of FCs due "shell" FCs, you'd still have only half the competition for housing plots as you do with personal houses allowed.
    That's not even considering that you can have a personal house IN ADDITION to a FC house. So you can have your shell FCs and then have the same characters hog an additional house each.

    There is no possible way housing can be fixed while personal housing remains in the wards. The first step to a solution is acknowledging and accepting that. Until then, housing will remain effed up.
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  8. #18
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    Nettle Creidne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zojha View Post
    There is no possible way housing can be fixed while personal housing remains in the wards. The first step to a solution is acknowledging and accepting that. Until then, housing will remain effed up.
    Yea but the other side of it is people could make shell fcs on their alts...a player could still have up to eight houses on a server. And eight apartments on top of that.

    Again I stress; before putting more restrictions on the current system SE need to expand on what we already have. Restrictions on top of restrictions will not solve anything. We need more options, not less.

    A great first step would be to increase the amount of tenants a personal house can have (really makes no sense that medium and large houses can only have up to four players) and introduce tenancy for apartments. This would most certainly not be a difficult thing to do given that tenancy already exists in the game.
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    Zeo Valefor
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    It's pointless to keep bringing up this topic. It's been here several hundred times and I don't think a dev has ever responded to it.
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    Rymmrael Bhaldraelwyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Acilith View Post
    Nobody on Balmung is gonna snatch up 9 houses, those houses are going to be gone in 5min flat. No time to log over onto alts and slog through the 2k+ person queue.
    You are probably right if you are talking about a single person, but in my post I specifically mentioned FCs who were controlling large swaths of plots. A decently sized FC would be more than capable of coordinating between multiple members and of having already prepped shell FCs, being ready to log on and snatch up several houses simultaneously. Given the login queue and the fierce competition on higher pop servers it is unlikely they could get all the houses they tried for, but they could still feasibly get multiples with relative ease.
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    Last edited by Rymm; 04-06-2017 at 09:31 PM.

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