Thread: Machinist extinction in 4.0?

Originally Posted by Ghastly

It took me ALL of heavensward to learn how to play machinist............
That's how strict this job is and why it needs more simplifying than any class. If Yoshida thinks black mage became too complex with enochain he should really try out machinist and find out how high the focus one needs to play a machinist is.

There are plenty of things I'd like to see changed about MCH, but complexity isn't one of them. Then again, I disagree with the overall philosophy Yoshi is espousing about simplifying classes. System mastery -should- be rewarded with markedly better results.

Personally I would much rather MCH gets the different gun attachments and meaningful ammo use that the class was touted to come with on release..

Originally Posted by EdwinLi

The majority would probably be more happy the RNG is gone on Machinist considering it is the RNG Mechanic that people consider the Primary issue with the Job thus the low played population.

It is a very out of control mechanic that leaves a lot on chance when the ammo is on cooldown.

I have a hunch that if they removed the RNG, they would also remove the ability to 'hold' procs. I'm not always a fan of RNG not proccing, but I really, like being able to go 1> 2 > 1 > 3 >2 >3

Originally Posted by Ghastly

FFXIV was doing bad before HW?
Complexity is never positive. A high ceiling is.

How can you claim it is 'never positive' when you have multiple people telling you that they specifically enjoy it?

Further, I would argue that the complexity allows for a higher ceiling. By increasing the difficulty of the class, you are reducing the number of people able to hit that ceiling, and by making them outliers, you don't have to balance around them. On the other hand, making a job easy to play and easy to put out stupid high numbers makes that job the 'flavor of the month' and gets the rest of player base calling for a nerf.