Thread: Machinist extinction in 4.0?

I can deal with Gauss Barrel's casting. But the graphical model needs to go. Change it to like, "Gauss Mode", keep the stance icon (because Minuet, Cleric Stance, and the tank stances don't have additional models and can be seen and identified just fine), and I dunno, make it change the light on the lunchbox or add a minor electrical current to your gun.

Just. . . ditch the squid.

Also, while I'd love more attacks (though there's only so many ways you can fire a gun/utilize a turret). I dream of being a proper buffer/debuffer support DPS. But for that to happen, at least in PvE, things would have to not be immune to everything.

Originally Posted by Ghastly

Out of all the classes I've played with mch my eyes are 99% of the time on the hotbars. I can't look away from them because the moment I do the rotation and buffs will ruin the dps numbers by a lot. I know that's true for a lot of jobs but for mch it's bad...if you mess up the rotation and end up with dead (no proc) rotations you're in for a bad time.

Also I hope they add a dual gun stance for mch....I want to be like merlwyb T_T
Make it like enochain, a limited time thing where you can use 2 guns.

I no lie thought it was just me that was staring at my bars the entire time I played MCH. I was so upset thinking I had to be doing something wrong, and no amount of trying to not focus on hotbars worked so I just quit. I was loving it too but that and the RNG...I couldn't. Also when the class was first announced I was hoping against hope that it would use 2 guns. I want to be like Merlwyb SO BAD.

Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI

I can deal with Gauss Barrel's casting. But the graphical model needs to go. Change it to like, "Gauss Mode", keep the stance icon (because Minuet, Cleric Stance, and the tank stances don't have additional models and can be seen and identified just fine), and I dunno, make it change the light on the lunchbox or add a minor electrical current to your gun.

type
/gbarrel. You will not see it but everybody else will. It's something, I guess.

Originally Posted by EdwinLi

I say Slap on a Gunblade Mod skill that can be used on level 1 but unlocked in 4.0 or 5.0 or etc that completely changes the Machinist Job combat style into a Melee DPS Job.

Eww, Why, how, in what world is this a good implementation of it? Changing a ranged to a melee for no reason is shortsighted. As it's said here (in brief, so benefit of the doubt) it's implying you just want it to be a damage gain overall, which is also a poor idea.
This is equally as bad of an idea as adding a feature that makes NIN turn both of his daggers into a double-sword so he can fight like Darth Maul. Just add a new job if you want something like that. Much less there's no way they can make this look good with actual gunblade models, Gauss Barrels look tacked-on, so would this.

Originally Posted by EdwinLi

Include Damage buff to the Gunblade Mod and replace the RNG mechanic in Gunblade mode with a Heat Mechanic focus on using Ammo to boost the Damage of attacks with Explosions just like how Squall uses his Gunblade.

This sounds a BIT like some of the early articles for Heavensward. Saying that Ammo is spent on certain attacks and MCH players have to decide how to spend ammo. (This was apparently communicated poorly, or changed heavily. ) Any MCH player knows that there's only 2 real uses for ammo, your combo chain and AoE burn phases with no other decisions to be made.

A heat mechanic/resource could be neat. Why are we latching it onto MCH? What does it have to do with turrets? For whatever reason, they didn't give us a cool cowboy gunslinger. They gave us a nerd with a lunch box full of turrets, gizmos, and gadgets, they should be involved here. They should be the focus.

I disagree that RNG has any heavy effect on overall damage output. The amount of GCDs you go through tends to even itself out (See, the Law of Big Numbers). In a fight of about 300 GCD or more, you're only losing an average of 30 potency on a lost 'flip' that doesn't proc Clean or Slug shot. It's not that great of a loss.

Originally Posted by EdwinLi

As much as I enjoy playing Machinist as my main character I can agree with the Majority that the major fault of Machinist is that it depends too much on RNG which has damaged the reputation of the Job badly enough that no matter how much SE can buff its damage it would not bring enough players back into considering Machinist as a Main or Sub played Job.

I'd say that the perception of them being RNG has damaged them, as this was the case in earlier patches. I don't see it as holding true since Midas. Any mathematical or statistical evidence I've seen doesn't suggest that's the case anymore. It might be the felt perception of it (which matters for popularity to be sure) but it's not the reality of the matter.

I don't really care or mind how many people play MCH, that doesn't hamper or benefit my enjoyment of the class in any way. They use a gun, I like guns, that's about the extent of it. What does hamper my enjoyment of them is a lot of their flavor and story choices, but I don't think turning them into Squall would begin to fix that, nor would it be a good direction for them to take.

Never knew there was so much heat on Machinist. I just got through the 3.0 story with Machinist and by the end of it I felt like I had a fairly solid grasp. Sure there are some aspects of it that I think could be streamlined, but I don't really think it's so bad.