Thread: Machinist extinction in 4.0?

Originally Posted by CyrilLucifer

But that changes the core of the job. I quite enjoy Machinist as it is, I wouldn't want that all.

Well the original Core design was to have Machinist to have multiple Weapon Mods for different Core gameplay styles.

Remember the constant complaint about Machinist not having Unique GB design on each gun? Well Original Design Machinist was going to have Unqiue Weapon mod desgin for each gun in their Weapon Modification Mechanic with each Mod changing the Machinist to a certain Core Gameplay style. The first two weapon mod were going to be a Laser Sight Mod and a Grip Mod.



Sadly we will never know how these Mods would have changed the Machinist Gameplay wise since rush to release of 3.0 and issues with the original concept development got in the way forcing SE to give us the current Machinist we have now.

Delete MCH tbh


I'm kidding. Strip away the RNG, reduce the button bloat, and ease the suffering of 30-52 somehow (perhaps the previous two suggestions would solve the problem) and it'll go a long way toward making this player use it more.

Originally Posted by Kuroneko_Jutah

Delete MCH tbh


I'm kidding. Strip away the RNG, reduce the button bloat, and ease the suffering of 30-52 somehow (perhaps the previous two suggestions would solve the problem) and it'll go a long way toward making this player use it more.

I could see MCH getting a second version of Reload as a buff. A 20 second lasting buff that will always proc your shots without providing you with the additional ammo potency gain per shot that Reload would have gave. This would keep Reload as being the superior buff while still lowering the RNG for the job while not removing it entirely.

Mained Machinist since Heavensward day 1. Taught myself the ins and out of it before there were guides, stuck with it through it's "weak" phase and Gordias shunning, play it well, and I play on controller.

It's not for everyone, clearly, but I doubt anyone who loves the job will just jump ship. I myself plan to level SAM and RDM, but I'll continue to remain a MCH main. Someone, somewhere in the east is going to need an adventuring gunman, and when they do, I'll be there.

Originally Posted by Kazrah

"Amazing for 20 seconds, useless forever".

I'm guessing you don't PvP, do you? There's a reason we're the top ranged DPS, and it's not just the "Between the Eyes" skill. . .

I like playing my BRD because it has a good combat pace, even with Minuet on. If you understand your cast times you can still get a lot of mobility out of it and throw a lot of skills out quickly. With MCH, every time I play it, with or without, Gauss I feel like every attack its trudging and slow. It's only when i get to put on Rapid Fire that I feel good playing it because the speed picks up to match the pace of most other DPS jobs. BLM and SMN are okay because, since they're spells, casting them really feels like you're putting power behind them. With MCH it just feels like the load/fire animation is just a bunch of fumbling.

I understand they went for the whole "Handgun technology is new to Eorzea and therefore it's really primitive" vibe, but it just lacks the engagement to be fun over a draw-out fight.

Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI

Malzian, if it helps, we're a weaving-heavy job. We have a lot of off-global CD skills, and weaving them between shots really makes it feel a bit faster paced, and is essential to our burst windows to maximize damage.

If Split Shot > Slug Shot > Clean Shot feels slow to you, try Split Shot > Gauss Round > Slug Shot > Ricochet > Clean Shot (as an example, not set in stone) and see if that feels better.

Oh I know about the weaving and have done it. It still feels sluggish to me. The whole animation for a single one of the normal shots ('fumble-fumble-click-click-bang') has me counting the seconds until I can do something else. I'm not saying it is objectively slow, but the the whole tone of the Job feels excessively labored to me. But that's my opinion on the matter.