Thread: Machinist extinction in 4.0?

I think MCH needs more support tools because didn't they say MCH was supposed to be made into a support/dps, and that is why the DPS is lowest out of everyone? It does not seem to be made up though the limited support they do offer. My friend was on BLM (and to my understanding is one of the higher single target dps) trying to do light farm. even in a1s, they wiped once due to lack of DPS, once the 2MCH left it went fast again.

So point is there is a few issues here:
BRD and MCH need different gear sets, or... add more options then 1 item so people can pick the needed sub stat, or balance the sub stats completely while getting rid of accuracy (with only 2 sub stats and 1 gear limit, like only having one script option, means there is no room for accuracy to be in the game, it is too hard on healers, and accuracy matters in such a small amount of content, why have it?)
lower complexity or give tutorials on it.
remove the rng aspect on combos, dps seems to be too low when you are unlucky, make ammo just a damage buff.

Originally Posted by Ghastly

Really good discussion here.

As for me if they just drop hotshot that would go a long way to making MCH fun. It's incredibly redundant. We already have to prebuff blood for blood/raging/hawk's eye and wildfire (when it's there). So all this pre-buffing gets really tedious when you throw in hotshot.

Hotshot has no business being there. We already have to use gauss barrel and the buffs I mentioned above.

What say you machinists? Would you be ok with completely removing hotshot and giving its potency to the main "shot" skills by default or maybe to the ammo?

but you need hot shot to have respectable dps..

Originally Posted by EdwinLi

So with the introduction of new Jobs, additions/adjustments to current Jobs, and Machinist current state of being the lowest played Job in the Game do you think Machinist Job players may become extinct or near extinctin 4.0?

Thus players would only see Machinist just because they want to level it and then drop it faster than a crazy ex once max level.

Whats a machinist? wasn't it extinct already on patch 3.1?

Originally Posted by Alael

Whats a machinist? wasn't it extinct already on patch 3.1?

Nope. 3.2 arrived and we overtook the BRDs. But nice attempt at being funny.

(P.S. We're also the best ranged in PvP)

You want to know what would get me to play a machinist? Fix the sound effect of the gun. It sounds pitiful. Sounds like a popgun when they are called muskets and carbines in game. Give it a sharp supersonic crack with some base after effect. Only grenade launchers and mortars should sound subsonic and even then when they impact its going to make up for it.

Visually I like MCH. But audibly it lacks. WoW had this problem too. But I was able to fix it with an addon there. I can't fix that here. Either let me swap the sound myself or fix it. Poofs and Pangs don't do the MCH justice.

Originally Posted by EdwinLi

We're not using anything involving Gunpowder like the NPCs but instead are basically just firing Mana Laser Bullets created by the Aetherconverter pack we carry around.

That's still no excuse for a gun to sound like there's supposed to be a spittoon sound after the shot. If anything, it should be a laser sound.

The only thing that will make me quit MCH is if they over simplify it. I like complexities of the job, and I love having to play at my best to be able to pull the numbers.

Originally Posted by Pence

The only thing that will make me quit MCH is if they over simplify it. I like complexities of the job, and I love having to play at my best to be able to pull the numbers.

Let me ask you
Do all black mages pull the same numbers?

Or is still up to really good black mages to actually excel above?
See, complexity is not real. There's always people that will go beyond.

A great black mage (simplest dps class) still has a high ceiling to reach even if the class is "simple."

Originally Posted by Ghastly

A great black mage (simplest dps class) still has a high ceiling to reach even if the class is "simple."

I would... not call black mage the simplest DPS class by a country mile, dude.

Originally Posted by EdwinLi

So with the introduction of new Jobs, additions/adjustments to current Jobs, and Machinist current state of being the lowest played Job in the Game do you think Machinist Job players may become extinct or near extinctin 4.0?

Thus players would only see Machinist just because they want to level it and then drop it faster than a crazy ex once max level.

IIRC, MCH is the strongest DPS right now. I don't think it's going anywhere