Stop Making Should-Be Achievement Gear.."Optional Gear"

[Belhi]

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I wouldn't look to Wildstar as a great example of a success story. The game doesn't even earn enough to be listed separately on NCSOFT's quarterly financial reports. Considering NCSOFT's past track record its surprising they haven't shuttered the game yet. Don't get me wrong, I like Wildstar and would probably play it if ping didn't make it almost completely unplayable for me, but they aren't a great example of a successful MMO model.

There is an argument to be made about the prices on the SE cash shop which could be valid. After all lower prices might end up meaning more items eventually sold. However without some data, which I doubt we will ever see, there is a lot of guess work to it.

With the armor given to us by Tatatru not being what i had hoped and the final patch having droped without further mention of it my fears that this particular will make an appearance in the cash shop is very real. Any number of plots could have been easily used to have it given to us, however the fact it was made scalable to different bodies and still not made a quest completion reward shows me an unsettling future.

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They always said that 'Cosplay' sets would be through the cash shop. I think its almost certain they would never be a quest reward. Likewise Krile's coat will be a cash shop item. In that particular case they said its the only reason they are spending resources on developing it because it is technically fiddly to adapt for some reason.

[Naunet]

I wouldn't look to Wildstar as a great example of a success story.

It's trucking along just fine, thank you. Just because it doesn't have a million subscribers doesn't mean it's a bad game. I also wasn't using it as an example of a "success story" but rather an example of a cash shop that is MUCH more consumer-friendly. When a f2p MMO manages to provide a far better deal than the cash shop in a p2p game, that's a problem.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

It's trucking along just fine, thank you. Just because it doesn't have a million subscribers doesn't mean it's a bad game. I also wasn't using it as an example of a "success story" but rather an example of a cash shop that is MUCH more consumer-friendly. When a f2p MMO manages to provide a far better deal than the cash shop in a p2p game, that's a problem.

Except a lot of game stuff is locked behind said cash shop, or rather, the sub for the game. I wouldnt call it consumer friendly lol

You can't create or invite people to a guild, warparty, arena team or circle. you only get 3 bazaar slots for buying and selling, the game is basically gimped unless you pay more than even XIV's basic sub. Wildstars free version is almost as restrictive as XIVs free trial, and THAT is ridiculous, since its a F2P game :P.

[Naunet]

You can't create or invite people to a guild, warparty, arena team or circle. you only get 3 bazaar slots for buying and selling, the game is basically gimped unless you pay more than even XIV's basic sub. Wildstars free version is almost as restrictive as XIVs free trial, and THAT is ridiculous, since its a F2P game :P.

If you spend some plat on a CREDD, you unlock all of those things. Or if you bought the game. Even if you don't want to spend the time to earn the plat, you only need to spend $15 once to unlock those. You do NOT need to be subbed to the game. Those restrictions are there for a reason (combat gold sellers) and are perfectly reasonable, especially when they don't actually require you to invest any money in the game at all.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

If you spend some plat on a CREDD, you unlock all of those things. Or if you bought the game. Even if you don't want to spend the time to earn the plat, you only need to spend $15 once to unlock those. You do NOT need to be subbed to the game. Those restrictions are there for a reason (combat gold sellers) and are perfectly reasonable, especially when they don't actually require you to invest any money in the game at all.

Maybe we are looking at 2 different things, because I pulled that info right off of their website.

[Naunet]

Maybe we are looking at 2 different things, because I pulled that info right off of their website.

And I play the game. You didn't look at the Cosmic Reward point system.

Since you probably don't realize it, Omnibits are a currency earned on a pretty frequent basis whenever you do anything that yields XP (xp is also awarded at level cap). They accrue at a pretty good pace, and after a week of doing content in my normal playtime I have more than enough to buy a couple dyes or a costume or whatever. A couple weeks, and I have enough to buy an account-wide mount if I want.

[DaikiKiyoshi]

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I really don't think you should be comparing Wildstar to FFXIV here. FFXIV has proven itself to be much more successful. Why would you want a successful MMO to emulate a comparatively unsuccessful one?


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