Quote Originally Posted by Owl_Hawk View Post
But where does it stop? Shall they stop making all sorts of weapon models all together? and just upgrade the same piece of item forever? And if you want anything else...pay for it? We are paying a sub already..part of that sub is the expectation that we will get digital items..systems such as the Veteran items is fine, since it rewards people who play...The Sub also covers items that users can use in the game....The game should be fun, challenging and since it is an MMO...should have alot more content for people to go do...Things to strive for...otherwise what is the point of playing at all? Then have them remove all mounts from EX fights...All emotes from the game..I can afford to buy these items...But my point is why pay a sub and bother having achievements if all the good stuff is bought? why do anything in the game? Raiding is OPTIONAL isnt it? so is LEVELING...so is gearing up...you don't make a strong point at all.
Well let's dissect this post, shall we?
  1. We don't pay for weapons with stats, because that would be against the point of a sub MMO, that would be F2P wherein Yoshida has already stated he would close the game before it got to that point.
  2. We don't pay for gear with stats, because that would be against the point of a sub MMO, that would be F2P wherein Yoshida has already stated he would close the game before it got to that point.
  3. You pay a sub and you do get items? Actually, the sub is more of a pass to pay the game for that month, really. You could pay $15, and not get anything out of it if you really wanted.
  4. If you can afford to buy all the emotes and mounts in the game, why are you then complaining about a $24 mount or $15 hair/outfit bundle if you can afford all the emotes and mounts which would amount to a total of 120 emotes, and 80 mounts, which totals to $840 for emotes and $960 for mounts, for a grand total of $1,800. You'd be absolutely okay with paying $1,800 instead of paying less than that over a course of 4~ years?
  5. So all the good stuff is not in the achievements? Let me remind you, we don't have GC Warsteeds on the Mog Station, we don't have the ADS mounts on the Mog Station, we don't have the Yokai mounts on the Mog Station, we don't have the GARO mounts on the Mog Station, we don't have the tank mounts on the Mog Station. There's a lot of stuff ALREADY rewarded from achievements that is apparently, as you put it, "not the good stuff"...
  6. Raiding is optional, but the gear has weight to it, as opposed to Lv1 glamour gear...
  7. Leveling is optional... if you want to be forever stuck at whatever level you're at.

You don't make a strong counterpoint at all... strawmen are only good if they actually make a point. Your point is that because VANITY items are available on the Mog Station at a premium, that things with WEIGHT to them, that are a core part of an MMORPG's system, should be on the Mog Station for a premium, as if they were a vanity item.

Sorry... what was the argument again? That pretty bow for my hair is on the Mog Station, so the entire game should be?

Quote Originally Posted by Ririta View Post
That's .001% too much imo

The one thing that I've ever wanted would cost me 30$, more expensive than the game and more expensive than a full game on Steam.
RRP for AAA games is $60 for home console or PC, $40 for handhelds. Indie games are an entire different category to AAA games, let alone an AAA MMORPG.