Stop Making Should-Be Achievement Gear.."Optional Gear"

[Ririta]

There was a demand for a CS or there wouldn't be one. Its profitable or it would have been shut down.

They wouldn't lose anything by having a failed cash shop, there wouldn't be a need to shut it down. They're not physical items that need to be mass produced to meet the demand and competes with storage space for other items.

You do realize that LoTA was supposed to be in the game at launch right? So it was part of the budgeted 2.0 release. Moogle had already been created, as it was in 1.0, as was ifrit EX.

Considering that 2.2 brought just as much (and better) content, I don't get your point.

If they wanted to do the same for 3.1 they could've released another tier for Ravana, Bismarck and Thordan. They just chose not to.

[Kuroneko_Jutah]

I think we all just see the world different and this seems so small to me because I have seen so much worse maybe.

Hit the nail on the head, here. It's really not as big of a deal as everyone is making it out to be, mountains out of molehills, etc.

[Brannigan]

Its no one's business what I do with my cash.

There was a demand for a CS or there wouldn't be one.

If you are the one spending cash, then you are the one creating the demand. For people who do not like the cash shop and what it does to the game, that is a problem. That is why people will criticize you for how your money is spent.

[KokonoeAiyoko]

or 6. Don't care at all about what other people do with their money and don't let the cash shop bother you.

No one cares what you do with the cash shop, though? And sure, as soon as you don't let criticism towards SE's implementation of the cash shop bother you.

[JunseiKei]

I just keeping reading this thread and then keep hearing the comment made by Yoshida fairly recently running around inside my head.

The one where he has someone above him that oversees the Mogstation. How they have to take development away to work on items and if they don't think the items will go over too well, they simply don't work on them.

However, if the Overseer of the Mogstation (may she make our wallets tremble) sees demand for something, it will be developed and placed into the Mogstation. However, only if they see demand for it.

Then I see how outcry against the Scion Adventurer's jacket hasn't gone over well, how that was time taken to make it... yeah. SE, you do what you do.

/ramble

EDIT:

I'm confused. Wildstar is free-to-play, which means it's entirely supported by cash shop purchases and premium subscription plans. How does that imply that FFXIV could work on a subscription without a cash shop? That's exactly the opposite model.

The thing people don't pick up on is that most MMOs can't survive on a subscription based income. The only MMOs alive I can think of that are subscription based still are WoW, FFXI (free now that its life has been drawn out, but no cash shop), FFXIV. Some start out as subscription based and quickly devolve into freemiums (TERA, Aion, Rift, The Elder Scrolls Online, Black Desert apparently).

[AsukaHamano]

I buy from MS simply because i like the stuff they put up there. I pay Sub because i like and want to play the game. the balance of items through achievements or in game in comparison to MS is still huge so its not like EVERYTHING is now MS only. if you want to buy stuff, do it. If you dont, then dont.
I do understand the OP's arguement but this is like shouting at a brick wall. MS works, it makes money and makes players happy so why would SE change anything with a working cash flow?

[Xlantaa]

I will laugh the day a Relic weapon will be a optional item on the shop. "Save the grind paying 9,99"

I agree with OP, sub-based game shouldn't have a cash shop.

Only the character name and the trasnfer server should be in the cash (To avoid abuse). Nothing more.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

I will laugh the day a Relic weapon will be a optional item on the shop. "Save the grind paying 9,99"

I agree with OP, sub-based game shouldn't have a cash shop.

Only the character name and the trasnfer server should be in the cash (To avoid abuse). Nothing more.

This is a slippery slope fallacy.

Square has shown no indication of moving in that direction despite some people's insistence for two years. There is simply no precedence to assume they'll suddenly charge for gear progression. Furthermore, it's financially shortsighted at best; suicide otherwise. Western audiences have extremely hostile opinions towards Pay to Win models. Black Desert suffered a PR nightmare even attempting it while ArcheAge eventually relaunched a separate server in a desperate attempt to repair the damage they caused going through with it. None of this accounts for it being wholly counterproductive. Say I could buy the 275 Anima or purchase a stack of 2,000 Scripture, and I use that with my static to clear Savage week one. What incentive do I now have to keep playing? Speed killing is meaningless due to the discrepancy P2W causes, I already have the gear and nothing else lasts for more than a week; assuming I even care about story. So I unsub until the next raid tier-- costing Square $78 (13x6). Basically, they would need to charge $40 each for the aforementioned benefits just to break even. Little higher than $9.99, hmm?

No matter how you slice it, putting the Anima or tomestones on the cash shop is an incredibly stupid and shortsighted idea they will never do.

[Ilan]

I will laugh the day a Relic weapon will be a optional item on the shop. "Save the grind paying 9,99"

I agree with OP, sub-based game shouldn't have a cash shop.

Only the character name and the trasnfer server should be in the cash (To avoid abuse). Nothing more.

And one day you will wake up and realize that SE is a company that has to earn money and has just COSMETIC items in their shop that have no impact on the gameplay. To make it short for you: Not gonna happen.

And if you think everything should be free in the game just because you pay a sub, maybe you want to pay more each month that the company can generate the expected amount of money with that game. But i hardly doubt that you can just imagine what happens if a game doesn't create the expected amount of money.

As if any publisher would be the welfare...

[Ririta]

And one day you will wake up and realize that SE is a company that has to earn money and has just COSMETIC items in their shop that have no impact on the gameplay. To make it short for you: Not gonna happen.

And if you think everything should be free in the game just because you pay a sub, maybe you want to pay more each month that the company can generate the expected amount of money with that game. But i hardly doubt that you can just imagine what happens if a game doesn't create the expected amount of money.

As if any publisher would be the welfare...

The game was fine and got more than ever before the cash shop. The content in Heavensward is pathetic next to 2.1 and 2.2, and the sub didn't have to increase.

Why do you people keep arguing against your own interests? As you said, Square Enix is a business. They're not your friends. You gain nothing from defending them, on the contrary, you lose and drag everybody else with you.