Do Something About Duty Finder Already

[Tachyon]

Tachyon@1.
Your most likely right, lately though the Job "experts are the ones who seem worse then the class people.

@2.
I actually had times i hit harder then some Job people using the Straight Shot + Internal Release combo.

@3.
Actually it does help, it gives the Tank a counter like boost, kinda just a bit of extra DPS damage really. As for Virus yeah its ok at the start, but loses its usefulness later. Even i barely use it. Still its nice to have that option, a quick power/intel down. Less damage on the tank, less the healer has to worry.

See when i use Class its as a support role nothing else, i do it for the buffs, needless to say RDM is the Job i've been waiting for since it will do all this. Buts still till then i would like to say this to everyone who disagrees. Try it, just for a few runs, figure out all the tricks that make us defend this style.

@1 Havn't had that problem really, I normally find people using classes instead of jobs are more of a hindrance than a help.

@2 I think those are just people playing their Job badly and not utilizing their skills? Like those NINs that only use Huton you run into.

@3 Dragoon, Ninja, Bard and WAR can all cross-class the 5% Mantra too. When it actually count's for something you will most likely have one of those classes in your party, and they can pop it when necessary instead of you having to lose out on job skills. E4E is ok, but both SCH/WHM are going to have that too and a third isn't going to make that big of a difference? A non-traited virus does not debuff int either


If you have a group of friends that is willing to work with a buffer class only then that's fine, I guess. But I don't think it has a place in regular Duty Finder play with randoms.

[Vorx]

If you have a group of friends that is willing to work with a buffer class only then that's fine, I guess. But I don't think it has a place in regular Duty Finder play with randoms.

Actually it does really well as long as you avoid the big parties, anything up to lvl 50 before expansion missions are ok with one Class player. Still even i won't go into an expansion run as a Class. Sometimes i get thrown into one while doing dailies but never on purpose.

@1. Sadly its people who complain about it who are the real problem, it's always just one person who is the one complaining not the party itself.
@2. Your most likely right, seems people aren't as good at the Jobs anymore. I've noticed this myself.
@3.Your right but the tanks are to busy holding agro to use them, the two DPS don't seem to wanna be bothered. But it does come in handy at times.

[Arg0n]

I know that feel OP.
There is only one solution for such players.
Kick them. If they get kicked even more, maybe they'll realise their miserable playstyle.

it's so sad compared to 2 years ago. DF AND PF is like a highway to hell.
Most time it's so annoying. That's why i stopped going solo in DF or PF groups, or even play FF14 and prefer other games to play.

I really hope there will be some massives changes and tutorials in stormblood to raise quality of DF and PF again...