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  1. #1
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    Pal-less Palace II - Lonely Exploer bug

    Time: 1:15 am EST
    Achievement: Pal-less Palace II
    World name: Midgardsormr
    Character name: Wesk Alber
    Class/Level: 60 paladin
    Party or solo: Solo
    Area and coordinates: Palace of the Dead
    Steps:
    1. Start a fixed party from floor 1
    2. Wipe anywhere on the trip to 50
    3. Wiping on 51+ to activate the 1-50 solo achievement
    4. Finish a solo journey to floor 100
    5. No achievement acquired

    This is a known bug in game, but I did not see anything here on the forums about it or whether its been noted or ever going to be fixed. But I just completed a 1-100 solo run of Palace of the Dead and got my score. I did not get the second achievement though, even though the first one did pop up upon suffering a wipe.
    If this is intended, I feel the achievement description should change to match needing to see beyond 100, or the requirements change to reflect soloing 1-100 as it says
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    Last edited by PowerofLost; 03-26-2017 at 02:51 PM.

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    Well as you saw that you had to wipe at 51+ to get the 1-50, you need to wipe at 101+ to get the 1-100.

    It's supposedly not a bug, because several users reported this when the achievement first came out a few months ago, and I'm fairly certain they all got moved to "Working as Intended".

    So in other words, you can't wipe
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    The achievement is registered as the score card comes up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashelia_Ferron View Post
    Well as you saw that you had to wipe at 51+ to get the 1-50, you need to wipe at 101+ to get the 1-100.

    It's supposedly not a bug, because several users reported this when the achievement first came out a few months ago, and I'm fairly certain they all got moved to "Working as Intended".

    So in other words, you can't wipe
    But that's still a bug. The achievement says "Clear 1-100" which I did do. So I should have it. But if the requirement is "clear 1-100 without a party wipe" then it is a TEXT bug. But that would also be inconsistent, as you can wipe in say floor 49, but then beat 50, wipe anywhere on 51+ and get it. Which again, is buggy considering the achievement is "clear 1-50." It's too inconsistent for that, and even if the inconsistency is intended, the text is wrong. Either way, there needs to be a fix.

    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    The achievement is registered as the score card comes up.
    Nope. You get a score for clearing 100.
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    It's the score card you get once you're past floor 100. Be it floor 200 or a wipe.
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    Which, still, everything I said about it applies. Floor 100 gives a scorecard. Needing a specific scorecard is dumb and inconsistent for what the challenge dictates
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    Yeah you have to wipe on floor 101+ for it to show up, they've known about this for a while now and haven't fixed it
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    Yes, I say as much in my OP.

    Which is my point of why it needs to be fixed, since it hasn't yet
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    Quote Originally Posted by PowerofLost View Post
    Which, still, everything I said about it applies. Floor 100 gives a scorecard. Needing a specific scorecard is dumb and inconsistent for what the challenge dictates
    If you look at the graphic of this little potd screen you'll notice it's "old school" gaming aka dungeon crawler. The whole system was and is build around that, meaning way way way back in time there have been games, and there were achievements or also called safe modes/options. You only got to save your game after you reached a specific point in the game, if you died earlier in that level/round you had to redo the whole thing. Again PotD was designed with that in mind, therefore it works as intended and is not bugged. You still can think it's dumb but that would be your opinion and not a flaw in the system/design.
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    Last edited by LunaFaye; 03-27-2017 at 06:25 PM.

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    Designed with it in mind, not exactly like that. Let's look at actual Rogue and see this isn't Rogue

    Meanwhile, achievement states solo floor 1-100. Not die past 100.
    First achievement states solo floor 1-50. Not die past 50. And you CAN die anywhere on 1-50 and still get the achievement.

    If it is intended, then the text is misleading and wrong
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