If you have a card from a raid, you should only be allowed to roll greed

[Bacent]

I'm mostly bringing this up, because there are still many people that complain about getting the cards. Earlier today I won a Diabolos Hollow card with a 95.....only to realize I already had one, and that I out-rolled someone else who had a 94.

I'm suggesting that with cards that are only given out in 24 man raid stuff, if you already have the card registered, you should ONLY be allowed to roll greed, so other people have a better chance of getting something for their collection.

Another reason being that pretty soon the current three towers will become like CT/ST/WoD, only to possibly be done again when the next relic stuff is out in 4.X and we potentially need items that we can get by doing one of each of the old towers per week.


EDIT

Would people be against the reasoning of making the cards PART of the weekly quests/ect for the towers? Or in a quest of their own do be done like that once a week?

Right now we have the weekly quest for the current relic where by doing each of the old towers once each, you get an aether oil.

And right now by doing dun scaith you get an item to trade in for a single ilvl 270 accessory, or that armour that's only good for glamour.

Would people be against adding a quest/a few quests to said places so people will not have to miss out on cards they need, AND people who don't need them/only care about the MGP can do them as they please? This of course would remove the fact that you could have a 'chance' of getting the card from the raid instance, but you would 100% be sure that you would get the card.

Older cards from this kind of stuff can get harder and harder to get a group to do, but something like this, I believe would give some people more of a reason to go back to do these.

[Theodric]

Better yet, just make it so that if someone is in the raid they have a chance of obtaining the card once the final boss is defeated as part of the personal loot system. That would align well with the drop chance for most other cards tied to PvE content and it'd be less frustrating than losing out week after week because you're usually competing against twenty three other players to roll the higher number.

Still, I wouldn't oppose you own idea - that would make things less annoying as well.

[Moomba33]

Better yet, just make it so that if someone is in the raid they have a chance of obtaining the card once the final boss is defeated as part of the personal loot system. That would align well with the drop chance for most other cards tied to PvE content and it'd be less frustrating than losing out week after week because you're usually competing against twenty three other players to roll the higher number.

Still, I wouldn't oppose you own idea - that would make things less annoying as well.

This pretty much. I don't understand why they changed the system with the Heavensward 24 mans.
With personal loot everyone in the party has a chance of getting the cards for their collections or mgp without hurting anyone else's chances.

[Vidu]

Cards in those 24 man raids used to have a chance to drop directly into your inventory (and in the ARR-raids its still like that). They changed that with VA - the Echidna-card used to be a direct drop and turned into chest-loot.
No idea why they changed it though...

The addition of disabeling you from rolling need in case you already have the card sounds pretty good to me - so, yes please!

[Chiramu]

This would be nice. I often forget if I have the card myself, it would be nice to have something that tells me, "no need to roll, mate, you've already got it!"

[Reinha]

This sounds good.

INB4 someone joins in with "My need for MGP is equal to your need to use this item!!" like in earlier discussions about dungeon gear.

[Altena]

INB4 someone joins in with "My need for MGP is equal to your need to use this item!!" like in earlier discussions about dungeon gear.

Dungeon gear is a completely different story... You are nearly always uncontested for your NEED rolls in a dungeon. Roll priority is also specific to the class so if you actually want gear to use then you can force a priority by playing that class..

Non-specific items such as cards and mounts are a different ball game entirely...

[ReplicaX]

This sounds good.

INB4 someone joins in with "My need for MGP is equal to your need to use this item!!" like in earlier discussions about dungeon gear.

Or setting them to personal loot like other cards dropped. Which resolves the argument entirely and the system itself is the same across the board.

Edit: There shouldn't be a guaranteed # of cards dropped from a Raid anyway. Defeats the whole point of "Card Rarity" and collecting.

[DaikiKiyoshi]

This sounds good.

INB4 someone joins in with "My need for MGP is equal to your need to use this item!!" like in earlier discussions about dungeon gear.

Saying "INB4" doesn't make the statement any less true, just so you know. Our need for MGP is just as important. I vote no, let us roll like normal.

[Viki]

This sounds good.

INB4 someone joins in with "My need for MGP is equal to your need to use this item!!" like in earlier discussions about dungeon gear.

These ppl are exactly why i dont do 24mans with randoms lol