If you have a card from a raid, you should only be allowed to roll greed

[DaikiKiyoshi]

This sounds good.

INB4 someone joins in with "My need for MGP is equal to your need to use this item!!" like in earlier discussions about dungeon gear.

Saying "INB4" doesn't make the statement any less true, just so you know. Our need for MGP is just as important. I vote no, let us roll like normal.

[Bacent]

Then how about once a card is traded from player to player once, it is unable to be resold or traded again.

No? That would still get people to be selling MGP to other players. Cards can stack. So if you manage to get a full stack of cards, you could sell X amount of MGP for Y amount of Gil.

Our need for MGP is just as important. I vote no, let us roll like normal.

MGP is a lot easier to get than some of the cards, even more so when you have a super low chance of getting a card you don't yet have because of people going 'I need MGP who cares about people who actually need it'.

So personally, I don't see the 'need' for MGP to be as important as people trying to collect items they actually need, and getting blocked off by people who already have it. This used to happen when horse farming, where people could actually roll on another whistle when they already had one. I reported many people at the time who even said in the chat 'Oh I only rolled cause I could lol', in which this kept happening up until you could no longer roll for what you already had.

People should not be prevented from getting what they're trying to get by people who already have the same item.

[Silver-Strider]

Crappy 4 star cards for EVERYONE.

[Felis]

Anoher idea:
Change it back how it was and give everyone the chance to get it randomly into the inventoy without rolling for it.

Shouldn't it just work like the ponies and lanners? If you have it, you can't roll need or greed?

You can't turn in mounts for a currency

[SenorPatty]

No? That would still get people to be selling MGP to other players. Cards can stack. So if you manage to get a full stack of cards, you could sell X amount of MGP for Y amount of Gil.

I'm not sure I understand.

With my idea, say I win a card from VA for example. I sell that card for gil to another player, that player can't do anything but use it to add to his collection or trash it. That's what I mean by "after its traded." The player can't even go the gold saucer vendor to exchange it for mgp.

Am I missing something here?

EDIT: is it about spending mgp to buy cards to resell for gil? Because that's the same system as using alt currency to buy things and choosing to resell, which in that case that particular argument is a whole other monster to deal with...

[DaikiKiyoshi]

No? That would still get people to be selling MGP to other players. Cards can stack. So if you manage to get a full stack of cards, you could sell X amount of MGP for Y amount of Gil.



MGP is a lot easier to get than some of the cards, even more so when you have a super low chance of getting a card you don't yet have because of people going 'I need MGP who cares about people who actually need it'.

So personally, I don't see the 'need' for MGP to be as important as people trying to collect items they actually need, and getting blocked off by people who already have it. This used to happen when horse farming, where people could actually roll on another whistle when they already had one. I reported many people at the time who even said in the chat 'Oh I only rolled cause I could lol', in which this kept happening up until you could no longer roll for what you already had.

People should not be prevented from getting what they're trying to get by people who already have the same item.

You keep using that phrase, "That they actually need...". Well some people actually need MGP. Why should someone "needing" the card be more important than someone "needing" MGP? Who gets to make that judgement call? Because it seems to be a matter of opinion and I vote they are both equally "needed" and to leave the rolling system alone on this one. Everyone being able to roll need still gives everyone an equal chance at getting it. Fair is fair.

[Bacent]

Seeing feedback from others, I edited my first post, where I'm now suggesting in making the cards a weekly quest type thing, like with relic/other weekly quests we have involving the towers, which are some of the more annoying cards to get (More so with the most recent towers in having to roll against 23 other people)

As DaikiKiyoshi said, Fair is Fair, which is true. I believe that this way everyone is able to get the rewards we need for their collection/MGP trade ins, we would not be able to trade the cards still, and there would be general less complaining from people in those that actually need the cards.

[Jim_Berry]

If they do that, then why keep the option to sell Cards for MGP?

[Ama_Hamada]

They should just make it like every other duty where it falls in your inventory. I got no clue why the void ark series works like this as put in the loot box, but taking out the need for people that have it would be nice if they insist in keeping it like that. I really like a chance of those cards for MGP if others have the cards but I do not know who does and who does not so I just roll greed hoping those that have it do the same thing.

[Bacent]

If they do that, then why keep the option to sell Cards for MGP?

Because right now you have a '''chance''' for getting a card, less so if the RNG doesn't like you when you have to roll for them. If they made it to a kind of weekly quest, then you would only get one of each card that week. Right now if you're lucky you could get more than that each week, but it's again luck based. This takes the luck out of the equation. Not to mention if you run the towers as a way solely for MGP, it's kind of time wasted, when you could just primal farm for cards since it takes much less time.