Summoner Pets: Quick Fix - Client Sided Summons!

[Ririta]

A lot of what you're saying is old lore. We've long since learned that there is no "real thing." What we're doing is the same thing as a full blown primal summoning. We're just doing it to a scale that feeds off of our aether rather than the land around us.

Now that we got over this limitation by channeling Bahamut's aether, I trust there's nothing stopping us from summoning other things or making ours better?

Also the egi glamour quest says that all we had to do was imagine Carbuncle while summoning Ifrit. Doesn't that means that we already have the potential of summoning the image of the real primals?

Here's hoping that summoners gets some love in Stormblood. It's the only thing that still bugs me, I really enjoy the job but it lacks that cool factor.

[Shougun]

A lot of what you're saying is old lore. We've long since learned that there is no "real thing." What we're doing is the same thing as a full blown primal summoning. We're just doing it to a scale that feeds off of our aether rather than the land around us.

Huh lol - I missed the part where it's the same thing as summoning the primal, but then that means its even less a reason why we can't empower our image (besides development costs lol). If you get stronger, as everyone will and does, then you can maintain greater Egi from your own aether (even if only temporary).

That was just my point, with the glamour system we have literal proof that the image != the power therefore doing the FFXI "not full power but similar looking" interpretation is 100% within the bounds of FFXIV's current lore (just make sure the change is added within a story so the move forward isn't entirely amiss as a complete reverse change to image). So there is NO lore that blocks the summoners from getting vastly larger summons.

However too large is bad for vision / group play, but we are no where near "too large". And some of that size can be managed through new mechanics/temporary settings. I'm still in awe when I see the larger Warlock summons in WoW, or a bestial wrath pet - never been in awe with the Egi. Although the Bahamut flare is pretty cool, and pretty in line with stupid epic FF SMN visuals so I actually thought when they added that they were actually trying to listen to player feedback. I mean.. Egi still look entirely out of place and bad overall compared to other MMOs and FF's self, but the flare was a great addition imo.

[Silverquick]

Why Can't we just be able to summon decent sized summons and obtain their traditional look similar to FFXI but make them be able to be client sided if the PS4 is a issue? I understand that people with not strong computers or laptops can also have this issue, so why not have a mode to be able to switch back and forth?

Ok here's the real reason why... The Summoner quest explains it, in a contextual fashion as you get to the upper levels of the quest.

You are NOT actually Summoning Shiva, Titan, Garuda... they are actually just an extension of your own power...

You fail in the quest to Summon a Shiva-Egi is explained in the quest at upper levels.... the reason you fail when you try... is that it turns out these are not really the Primals at all.. They're just an extension of your own Aether, its why they come out the way they do...

After that failure... Y'Mitra comes up with another idea... to link you in with the Primal's force and use the actual power of the primal Baphamet to increase your own power...

This results in... The Dreadwyrm Trance...

...and channeling the power of the Primal to enhance and greatly empower your spells and grant other abilities that are not available normally...

Namely... the Deathflare... of the Primal of the great supreme dragon.

Hence... when this Summoner truly becomes like the FF Summoner.

[Blackcanary]

Do we really need another thread about this. There's a old thread compering the summons from FFXI to FF14 and what not. Even with diagrams.

[Empress]

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Um I dont use the forums often i just look in once in a while to read it to see whatsup so Im not sure what that said thread is or explanations. I havent seen anything in a while like that whenever i come on here from time to time, so I only thought it would be okay to have this type of thread. If you dont like it you can just ignore it and move on its not hurting you lol

[odintius]

Well I wouldn't mind if they evolved and change in appearance because your power as a summoner grew making them take a different shape perhap nothing overly huge though >.>