New Racers for Final Fantasy XIV

[Baxter]

Your opinion about how it does not break the continuity in other FF games is fine.

umm, no. You mentioned breaking continuity was reusing elements (races) from different final fantasy games in 14. I merely stated that SE had done it before. You disagree with that?



P.S. Oh yeah the rolanberry thing was a joke. Probably a lame one,(it's an inside one). It does further my point how they steal non-staple "FF" elements and reuse them in other FFs.

What has been branding FF games, are recurring creatures vehicles, characters, and names. Such as chocobos, moogles, slime, bombs, cactuar, airships, Cait Sith, Ifrit, and the name Cid. Granted these were not always in every single FF game, but more of a branding device for FF games rather than the races of Ivalice.

leggo.

[lackofwords]

umm, no. You mentioned breaking continuity was reusing elements (races) from different final fantasy games in 14. I merely stated that SE had done it before. You disagree with that?

Well, yes, you started as just merely stating that SE has already done it before. However, then followed up with that it is "okay" because SE has done it before. That is what I'm disagreeing with, your line of reasoning. I'm not disagreeing with the fact they have already used it.

The line of reasoning you gave which only opens up the topic was;
They have done it already, thus it is alright to do it again.
Or to just quote you;

My point is how can anyone say races from 'x' FFgame do not belong in XIV, when XIV races are ripped directly from a previous installment.

My line of reasoning is this;
They have done it already, but it does not mean it is wise to do it again.

Then, it opens up the debate as to why it is okay for them to continue to do so, or not to do so.

[Baxter]

umm, no. You mentioned breaking continuity was reusing elements (races) from different final fantasy games in 14. I merely stated that SE had done it before. You disagree with that?

Well, yes, you started as just merely stating that SE has already done it before. However, then followed up with that it is "okay" because SE has done it before. That is what I'm disagreeing with, your line of reasoning. I'm not disagreeing with the fact they have already used it.

And we are done here. Refuting facts for the sake of your argument doesn't make you right. lol.

[lackofwords]

And we are done here. Refuting facts for the sake of your argument doesn't make you right. lol.

Apparently you're still missing the point. You first stated a fact, which I didn't refute on because it's a fact. However, later on you've started using the fact as a justification for the continuance of it. Such as they did ___ so it is justified they can continue to do ___. That's what I'm arguing over.

Here, lets take it out of context if it helps you understand, since I can't seem to explain this without you getting confused over your own reasoning.

In World War II America conducted the first atomic bombing on Hiroshima, then on Nagaski, and had plans for additional bombings.
Because America had conducted nuclear warfare once before, does that alone justify the use of nuclear warfare on any occasion?

The first bit is a fact,
the second bit is debatable.

If you apply your reasoning to that, then you're basically saying, it's okay to shoot off more nukes because America already did it.

Read your reasoning in your own quote;

My point is how can anyone say races from 'x' FFgame do not belong in XIV, when XIV races are ripped directly from a previous installment.

Re-worded;
"How can ANY race from ANY FF game not belong in FFXIV when they have already used FFXI races."

With that reasoning I can apply it to also,
"How can anyone say FFXI's skill chain system does not belong in FFXIV when they already have FFXI's exp chain system"