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    Quote Originally Posted by Baxter View Post
    Also If you are going to try to return the installation to a stead and true ff series feel, stop trying to be so variably different from everything, even your own brand. This goes for the subject of races, and beyond.
    What has been branding FF games, as I have mentioned before, are recurring creatures vehicles, characters, and names. Such as chocobos, moogles, slime, bombs, cactuar, airships, Cait Sith, Ifrit, and the name Cid. Granted these were not always in every single FF game, but more of a branding device for FF games rather than the races of Ivalice.

    Quote Originally Posted by Baxter View Post
    We've digressed far from my original, and only point. It was a weak argument to say something doesn't belong in xiv because it appeared in an offline ff, and not an online ff. To justify why they could just copy pasta a galka and rename it a roe, and not do the same for Viera is pretty silly.
    Humanoid type of races (besides actual humans) aren't recurring themes throughout the FF series.

    The reason races of FFXI were used was what I've quoted on Tanaka,
    http://www.ffxivcore.com/topic/21505...aka-interview/
    DO: Did you keep the races similar to FFXI’s races to help FFXI players get used to the new world?

    Tanaka: (...) We made the game with FFXI players in mind, so we wanted them to be able to play with the characters they knew and loved. (...)
    That's all, he wanted to draw the player base from FFXI into FFXIV. And it was a horrible decision in my opinion because it made players believe this would have been a sequel.

    Additionally, it served no purpose in design to reuse these races in a new environment. The races for FFXI were crafted with the design of the nations, they were molded to fit the story and plot. Humes, elvaan, and tarus had a nation, mithras were mostly migrated over and formed communities within forest-like locations such as Windurst and Khazham, galka lost their homeland and reside with humes. They had culture and history relating in the development of their nation and beliefs. And when yanked out, and slapped into FFXIV they are nothing but another anonymous dude in game.

    The races of Ivalice, however, only appears only in "Ivalice Universe" based FF games for a reason. They are all residing in the same world, they are part of the elements that creates the cultures and society of the world Ivalice. They exhibit the same behaviors and social standards. You also see the same characters such as Vaan, Balthier, and Fran making guest appearances in some of the FF spin off games. It flows in the same game timeline. It is all part of conscience design, and not just a mere gimmick to draw players in from another FF series. It is not branding for the entire FF series, it is to hold continuity for the Ivalice Universe.
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    Last edited by lackofwords; 12-05-2011 at 11:13 AM.