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    In addition to the discussion, we're getting landmarks from previous Final Fantasy titles. For example the Crystal Tower from FFIII etc. We'll be getting more like this from other Final Fantasy titles to "Feel" like a Final Fantasy game. That my friends is the point of the matter, because it doesn't matter who or what it is, if they belong to the Final Fantasy franchise, by all means Yoshi can put them in here. Just like Moogles and Magitech armor.

    I don't mind if they bring the Viera race into XIV.

    I'll like to see some more iconic characters return as well.
    Biggs and Wedge


    edit: of course people will ignore this fact.
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    Last edited by Andrien; 12-05-2011 at 03:29 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lackofwords View Post
    The reason races of FFXI were used was what I've quoted on Tanaka,
    http://www.ffxivcore.com/topic/21505...aka-interview/

    That's all, he wanted to draw the player base from FFXI into FFXIV. And it was a horrible decision in my opinion because it made players believe this would have been a sequel.

    Additionally, it served no purpose in design to reuse these races in a new environment. The races for FFXI were crafted with the design of the nations, they were molded to fit the story and plot. Humes, elvaan, and tarus had a nation, mithras were mostly migrated over and formed communities within forest-like locations such as Windurst and Khazham, galka lost their homeland and reside with humes. They had culture and history relating in the development of their nation and beliefs. And when yanked out, and slapped into FFXIV they are nothing but another anonymous dude in game.

    The races of Ivalice, however, only appears only in "Ivalice Universe" based FF games for a reason. They are all residing in the same world, they are part of the elements that creates the cultures and society of the world Ivalice. They exhibit the same behaviors and social standards. You also see the same characters such as Vaan, Balthier, and Fran making guest appearances in some of the FF spin off games. It flows in the same game timeline. It is all part of conscience design, and not just a mere gimmick to draw players in from another FF series. It is not branding for the entire FF series, it is to hold continuity for the Ivalice Universe.
    I am not commenting on peoples' opinion on whether they want Ivalice or other Final Fantasy races in the game or not. We all have our opinions, and this would be redundant. I never said I was for or against this. I am merely stating that they had absolutely no issue breaking the continuity of one game's universe (XI) to add the races to another game that is, "in no way related" (XIV). So the precedent exists. My point is how can anyone say races from 'x' FFgame do not belong in XIV, when XIV races are ripped directly from a previous installment. Buck all the excuses, and reasonings as to why Tanaka did it. It remains; the precedent is there.
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    Last edited by Baxter; 12-05-2011 at 12:11 PM.

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    Id like to see a cute/sexy sheep or ram type of race.

    or a wingless feathery but with some skin type of race.
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    15 abilities each? what is this... Kindergarten?
    A jack of all trades WHM... what is this 1989?

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    I could care less what they do as long as they keep catgirls.
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    The only races that are reused in the main FF games are humans, elves, dwarfs, and the various trope monsters the series is known for.

    Being that 14 is a spiritual sequel to 11 and they decided to use races that would help attract the FF11 crowd, it's an understandable exception.
    Using races from the Middle Eastern and African inspired Ivalice doesn't make much sense for the Northern Europe and North American inspired Eorzea. Not only because the races fall out of expectation from region, but because it also cheapens the original games. Not so much cheapening XIV, but more so XII and the other Ivalice games, it makes them less unique, and that's Ivalice's best feature.


    So no hot bunny girls for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreamer View Post
    I really hope they don't add a dragon race. They're so overused.
    Catgirls and other animal races are overused too, but I don't see you complaining about Miqo'te
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    Dragon race would be Gria? If that is the case then Viera should not be completely out of the realm of possibilities since...you know...Gria are from Ivalice as well.

    Seriously though, I would love to play as a Gria, so if they did add it I would definitely change from this long necked Elva-erm-I mean Elezen.

    BUT! If I had to choose either A) more raceRs or B) giving the current races and their appropriate clans actual homes (Ie: Duskwights getting a town in a set of caves or something) of course leaving the main cities as they are...I'd pick option B.
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    Well the game itself as far as the story goes is subject to change come 1.2 - 2.0, so there is a ton of time for SE to introduce new races as far as story goes. The Viera for example as portrayed in FFXII are not a race that involve themselves with the modern world.

    With that being said, they could in fact add new race within the coming patches leading up to 2.0 since I'm "assuming" they will allow players to recreate their characters when the game becomes "complete". As far as I'm concerned this entire game is still under beta, and I hope that they can use that to their advantage to create a better more fuller character creation. I personally like options, the more time I spend trying to decide what my character will look like visually, the less time I'll spend desiring other aspects of the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andrien View Post
    These pics was posted a few years ago on ZAM. At one point FFXIV was codename project Rapture and here are the leaked screens.

    Source: http://www.zam.com/story.html?story=12898

    So yes I believe the dev team can do this and they should. Eorzea is only one of three small continents and we don't even know whats beyond the Empire, its fact no one can judge or rule that out. Just like new monster races and tribes can be added the same can be applied to player races in a sense.

    edit: sure they're fake. but meh..









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    I like to be a qiqirn or goblin
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