Thread: 3.56 MSQ Discussion (SPOILERS)

Is it just me or did Gotetsu reminds me of Gilgamesh AKA Greg. They acted so similar. I wasn't expecting him to be another goofy giant guy. I've stated previously in the Show Your Roe thread that I believe he's a hybrid Hyur / Roegadyn like Hilda is a hybrid Hyur / Elezen. He looks too much like a Hyur with a Roegadyn body frame. I would hope so he is rather a clue to 3rd clans for all races that SE kept hidden as s surprise for us all. Big leap, but I hope it's what it is. Not adding customization on an expansion with more capability is a huge letdown.

Originally Posted by Antonio_Xul

Is it just me or did Gotetsu reminds me of Gilgamesh AKA Greg.

He reminded me more of the Scotsman from Samurai Jack.

Lyse's deception and VA are not warming me up to the character. SE's intention on making every utterance a meme (Please regale to me again how you are not holding back and dedicating every hit to Papalymo for the 32nd time)is going to grow tiresome quickly.

The fight itself only makes me convinced that SB is going to be handed to us tastelessly easy. The pillowy mounds of dead Garleans followed by the goofiest looking Roe did not help.

It did comvince me that Omega would make a cute Shoot 'em up game, albeit one I'd probably not buy.

I have a question about the time line here regarding Yda and Lyse. If the real Yda died 6 years ago where does that put her life and death into perspective in regards to the events from 1.0 to 2.0 exactly? Was the Yda from 1.x the real Yda or not?

Originally Posted by seraf

I have a question about the time line here regarding Yda and Lyse. If the real Yda died 6 years ago where does that put her life and death into perspective in regards to the events from 1.0 to 2.0 exactly? Was the Yda from 1.x the real Yda or not?

You'll get answers on both sides, but I don't think the game has given us any indication that we've ever seen anyone other than Lyse as Yda. The calamity was 5 years ago (yes, still; time doesn't pass in MMOs for reasons of practicality), they picked 6 years to make it explicit that it was before we ever met Yda. And the game strongly implies the actual Yda was a lot different than Lyse (all the scions immediately knew she was an impostor), and 1.0 Yda was just as ditzy and absent-minded as ever.

Originally Posted by seraf

I have a question about the time line here regarding Yda and Lyse. If the real Yda died 6 years ago where does that put her life and death into perspective in regards to the events from 1.0 to 2.0 exactly? Was the Yda from 1.x the real Yda or not?

Timeline is a bit odd in FF14 because until the game actually says so, the timeline doesn't move forward. It is this weird 'time bubble'. I wish they would stick to a specific timeline for exactly this reason though.

As far as we can tell Lyse has been the Yda you have known since you meet her in 1.x, specifically I think when you first meet the Circle of Knowing when they face down Giaus. However the Yda from all the Echo visions in 1.0 was the real Yda. Yda died just prior to the calamity trying to smuggle refugees out of Ala Mhigo and the lore book mentions the Circle making such an attempt just prior to the events of 1.x in which the Garleans got wind of it and 'a lot of people died'.

Originally Posted by Talraen

You'll get answers on both sides, but I don't think the game has given us any indication that we've ever seen anyone other than Lyse as Yda. The calamity was 5 years ago (yes, still; time doesn't pass in MMOs for reasons of practicality), they picked 6 years to make it explicit that it was before we ever met Yda. And the game strongly implies the actual Yda was a lot different than Lyse (all the scions immediately knew she was an impostor), and 1.0 Yda was just as ditzy and absent-minded as ever.

We see the original Yda in echo visions and honestly its hard to tell the difference. I think the two sisters were actually pretty similar in a lot of ways. As for the Archons, its not hard that they would pick up on it. The all knew the original Yda. Y'shtola was actually a close friend. What was more surprising is that Lyse actually thought she could fool them considering she must have been quite a bit younger than her sister. Its also worth noting the original Yda was also someone who was a poor scholar but excelled in physical disciplines.

As far as the WoL goes though, they have never truly met Yda in the flesh. It as always been Lyse. The only time the WoL may have interacted with Yda was in the weird time travel echo visions from 1.0.

Originally Posted by Antonio_Xul

Is it just me or did Gotetsu reminds me of Gilgamesh AKA Greg.

A bit, but more like different sides of the same coin. Gilgamesh's seriousness doesn't come across as particularly sincere, and he's also more the clumsy oaf big guy.

Gosetsu feels more like the boisterous but competent big guy - the guy that plays hard and fights hard...and one you actually want fighting by your side.

I'm disappointed overall. Not that the plot wasn't great but this was the last big send off before SB and all we got was one instanced battle (though I was watching gosetsu like a hawk to see the battle animations), some cool revelations, and one decent battle cutscene.

While watching it my first thought was "I wish I could be having that much fun right now." It wasn't a bad patch, just underwhelming.

they didn't want give much alway to you

i wonder if it be Enstien who be dragoon instructor for now on I wonder what happen to him