4.0 tank buff ability changes, please don't do this

[MagicofGaia]

"PLD's Rampart and DRK's Shadowskin are becoming the same skill (no mention of WAR's Foresight, but I can only imagine it will be as well), and will be a cross-role skill for tanks."

-https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comments/5xrv3u/more_information_from_korean_live_letter/

I can understand issues like changing Thunder 1,2,3,etc, but fusing a tank buff that is class specific to make 1 cross-job ability that neither can use by itself is kind of frelling stupid. It takes away class individuality to make a single skill, while dark can't equip rampart nor can pld equip shadowskin. This seems pointless and just removes job flavor.

[shao32]

well rampath and shadowskin are already the same but diferent name, icon and animation, the only one was working diferent is innerbeast, i dont mind if they made it like a generic mitigation tool for all tanks if they still keep they animation and icon, idk something like in the lisp apear like "defense of the tank: 20% damage mitigation 90 seconds recast" but depend of wath job you equip it take the name, the icon and the animation of rampath, shadowskin or innerbeast.

[bswpayton]

Where was this verified at?

[Axxion]

Where was this verified at?

The Korean live letter

[EusisLandale]

Yay, more "Here's some changes for you DPS to look forward to. No, we still have no idea what we're doing for you Tanks and Healers."

[bswpayton]

So how does this benefit tanks again, by just makin them a single ability , it would make sense if we had a fourth tank and now they have access to it but wont be getting one of those so it basically, just would make warrior even more op

[Khalithar]

The change is fine, as long as each class keeps it's unique graphic I have no complaints.

[akomei]

The change is fine, as long as each class keeps it's unique graphic I have no complaints.

I agree, I expressed concern for this when I first heard this news.

What's the purpose of making Rampart and Shadowskin the same skill?

Sure, they do the same thing, but isn't playing different classes also because of visual appeal?
I really love the Shadowskin animation with the greatsword being held like a shield in front of you.

Rampart also looks cool with the barrier-like shells around you.

If they become the same ability, I feel like each job loses its unique appeal, even if it just cosmetic.
I would really hope they at least keep the animation for each job, it helps maintain the individuality that I've enjoyed between the job roles.

[Shurrikhan]

The change is fine, as long as each class keeps it's unique graphic I have no complaints.

:: Not aimed at you, Khal, just generally speaking...

That's a heck of a condition that would have remained guaranteed if they simply didn't change it. And for what?

The only possible benefit is that Gladiator can get its Rampart-equivalent at level 1 instead of level 2 (as there is nothing that can down-sync a DRK to level 1 anyways). Whoopdi*******do? How is any level one Gladiator going to feel disturbed by his lack of Shadowskin for the three courier quests level 1 lasts?

Other than that we no longer have any assurance that they will keep their unique graphics, and are damn near assured that they won't keep their unique names. There is zero change to button bloat, as each only ever had access to one of the two anyways. (Were there just too many terms in the game? Was this an attempt to battle bibliobloat?) How do the positives here possibly outweigh the negatives?

In general, before accept things on such unlikely conditions as "so long as it doesn't do any of the things that would assumably go wrong with it", how about looking at the positives, and just how small they are in these cases against those likely negatives.

[Reynhart]

That's a heck of a condition that would have remained guaranteed if they simply didn't change it.

It's not that big of a deal. If you use Fracture on PLD, it already has a different animation than WAR, while still being the same skill.