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    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Kosmos Meishou
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    Frontlines fun...and a swift apology

    So, I decided - for the sheer heck of it - to Q for DR Frontlines - despite never once having set foot in PvP. I was feeling daring and figured, I could give it a go and in a group of 3, 24 player alliances (72 players), no one would notice my utter noob status.

    Well, I was correct, no one noticed, or if they did, they said nothing. And I must say thank you and I am sorry if I was not terribly helpful. I did try to follow the lead of other players in my alliance, and we must have done something right, because we won the day.

    It was very chaotic, and I will admit kind of fun, probably because I didn't have a stake in the game since I was totally new and noobish.

    However, since it was Duty Finder and I play PLD, and my team won, the game showered me with Tomes and Marks.

    My current gear is the i200/210 AF PLD gear, I'm not yet through the story for 3.0, but took some time out to grind enough hunts for the AF set (not exactly difficult, unless you consider breathing to be difficult...). Thanks to my one and only venture into PvP I was able to afford;

    Heroic Spirit Shield - henceforth known as the 'invisishield' - the only 'must have' piece of PvP gear for me right now.
    i230 Primal Ring of Fending replaces a lvl 58 ring, leaving me with a minimum of i200 in any slot now.

    So, a big thank you to the other players in my Alliance, the Immortal Flames are awesome.

    Now, I have to figure out if I can actually do this again and know what I am doing next time...
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    Last edited by Kosmos992k; 03-28-2017 at 01:08 AM.

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    Moomba33's Avatar
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    Eva Gamirdren
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    Glad you had a fun experience.
    PVP is synced to i150 so no harm in using the AF 2 stuff.
    The main thing is choosing pieces with good substats.

    I'm not great at PVP myself but one tip I can give is to make sure you have your PVP actions on your hotbar and understand how they work. As you rank up in PVP you get points you can use to enhance the actions such as reducing their cooldowns.
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    Also, if you're doing frontlines, you probably got Shatter. That's practically PvE anyway, so don't worry. I mean yeah there's the whole beating other people senseless thing, but in shatter, your primary goal is to break ice. Long as you let ice take priority to skirmishing, you're doing good.
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    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moomba33 View Post
    Glad you had a fun experience.
    PVP is synced to i150 so no harm in using the AF 2 stuff.
    The main thing is choosing pieces with good substats.

    I'm not great at PVP myself but one tip I can give is to make sure you have your PVP actions on your hotbar and understand how they work. As you rank up in PVP you get points you can use to enhance the actions such as reducing their cooldowns.
    I will create a PvP command set for that. I'm still not sold completely on PvP, but it's there and it has good rewards, so I may give it more of a chance afterall - now that my initial fear of it has vanished. What's the best way to learn your PvP command set in action, and how on earth do you know what to do in Frontlines which seemed more like a great big ball of chaos rather than a strategic battle.

    Quote Originally Posted by Atlaworks View Post
    Also, if you're doing frontlines, you probably got Shatter. That's practically PvE anyway, so don't worry. I mean yeah there's the whole beating other people senseless thing, but in shatter, your primary goal is to break ice. Long as you let ice take priority to skirmishing, you're doing good.
    Ah, thank you, that helps a lot with understanding, it was definitely 'Shatter', there was lots of ice breaking.
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    Last edited by Kosmos992k; 03-28-2017 at 01:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kosmos992k View Post
    I will create a PvP command set for that. I'm still not sold completely on PvP, but it's there and it has good rewards, so I may give it more of a chance afterall - now that my initial fear of it has vanished. What's the best way to learn your PvP command set in action, and how on earth do you know what to do in Frontlines which seemed more like a great big ball of chaos rather than a strategic battle.
    See, that's the secret- it's a great big ball of chaos because like 75% of the people who queue for frontline roulette want that good scripture bonus and don't know what the hell to actually do. Just remember objectives- break ice or what have you. Sure, you can beat someone senseless, but it doesn't actually give your team much of an advantage to do so. Really the only thing to worry about besides breaking ice is getting run over by roving packs of enemy players, and having your base capped by an enemy team. Alliance chat is a valuable tool for helping herd people to where they need to be.
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    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atlaworks View Post
    See, that's the secret- it's a great big ball of chaos because like 75% of the people who queue for frontline roulette want that good scripture bonus and don't know what the hell to actually do. Just remember objectives- break ice or what have you. Sure, you can beat someone senseless, but it doesn't actually give your team much of an advantage to do so. Really the only thing to worry about besides breaking ice is getting run over by roving packs of enemy players, and having your base capped by an enemy team. Alliance chat is a valuable tool for helping herd people to where they need to be.
    That's a pretty perfect description of what I saw going on. Next time, before the barrier at the start drops, I'll speak up and ask what the priorities are - and strongly suggest ice...unless that is the stated goal of others.
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    Renard Lefeuvre
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    You can play around with your PVP actions in the Wolfs Den Pier area (and maybe duel a friend) which should help! Some of them are extremely useful and can make a big difference once you get the hang of everything. As for learning your way around, a lot of it is just getting used to the map and the timing patterns for the ice, plus some of the more popular strategies. Your main priority as PLD is to avoid losing track of where your army is and getting marooned in the middle of the enemy. Interrupting enemy healers (and caster limit breaks) is also very helpful.

    Glad to hear a positive story about FL. I love it, just wish it would pop more at the time of day I play.
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    Player Kosmos992k's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serilda View Post
    You can play around with your PVP actions in the Wolfs Den Pier area (and maybe duel a friend) which should help! Some of them are extremely useful and can make a big difference once you get the hang of everything. As for learning your way around, a lot of it is just getting used to the map and the timing patterns for the ice, plus some of the more popular strategies. Your main priority as PLD is to avoid losing track of where your army is and getting marooned in the middle of the enemy. Interrupting enemy healers (and caster limit breaks) is also very helpful.

    Glad to hear a positive story about FL. I love it, just wish it would pop more at the time of day I play.
    Many thanks, I'll give that a try, and I agree, as much as I have ragged on PvP in the past - and I have - I enjoyed the experience, and am happy to be able to post positively about PvP.
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    Ninety-nine more wins for mount now, woo! I didn't really expect it to be that fun but was surprised too. Remember to stun everyone you see, paladins are a pain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Newmanxeno View Post
    Ninety-nine more wins for mount now, woo! I didn't really expect it to be that fun but was surprised too. Remember to stun everyone you see, paladins are a pain.
    This one has the right of it. You're rolling PLD, you have the only on-demand stun in the game. Abuse the hell out of it.
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