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    PVP Matchmaking Algorithm for Arenas 8v8

    Please alter the matchmaking for the arena maps SE. In arena we need two healers, a tank and five damage dealers.

    Arena is not like Frontline where PVP gear doesn't matter, a lot of people queuing for arena don't have the ability to change roles(the gear and the knowledge).

    It doesn't provide a very fun experience when your team doesn't have anyone who can switch roles. I had one equal and fun match in 8v8 out of a whole day of PVP. Please alter the algorithm to make sure each team gets a tank and healers with their damage dealers.

    EDIT: Have the algorithm put a little focus in forming compositions.
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    Last edited by Chiramu; 03-27-2017 at 08:21 AM.

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    It was like this but the queues was slower. It's more fun like this, if you want each role for 4v4
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxczx View Post
    It was like this but the queues was slower. It's more fun like this, if you want each role for 4v4
    There is no one queuing for 4v4... No one has any incentive to 4v4 once they get their rank, there is no rank decay so they get top and stop PVP to keep that rank for the end of the season.

    The only arena on Tonberry is 8v8. I don't have a choice, the matchmaking needs to be fixed and it is not fun like this. It is not fun being flattened because you are one healer and 7 damage dealers!
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    Don't be one healer then, just go 8 DPS. Plenty of matches are won with 8 DPS vs 2 healers
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxczx View Post
    Don't be one healer then, just go 8 DPS. Plenty of matches are won with 8 DPS vs 2 healers
    I don't play DPS... If you read my OP you will have read, "a lot of people queuing for arena don't have the ability to change roles(the gear and the knowledge)".
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    That doesn't say anything about yourself, only other people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xxczx View Post
    That doesn't say anything about yourself, only other people.
    So I am not people then? Gotcha.
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    I think its fine as it is. 8v8 was super ultra dead before they made this change and it was painstaking trying to get the right number of roles together for this. It's a lot more active now and active is fun regardless of the number of healers since matches are short anyway.
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    There can be some minimal matchmaking without increasing que times. Sometimes one team starts with 4 healers and 4 ranged and the other team has only melees and tanks. Why not adjust it so both teams start with two healers? Same for melee/ranged/tanks. Would be nice to see it in Frontlines too so healers were spread across three alliances unless in premade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperZay View Post
    There can be some minimal matchmaking without increasing que times. Sometimes one team starts with 4 healers and 4 ranged and the other team has only melees and tanks. Why not adjust it so both teams start with two healers? Same for melee/ranged/tanks. Would be nice to see it in Frontlines too so healers were spread across three alliances unless in premade.
    This would be a good idea.

    Also, what about locking the ability to change job in duty? So you queue as the role you want to PVP as and the matchmaking puts you into a suitable game with other people. Changing job in the arena could be a form of grief if the matchmaking sorts compositions. Example, your team is assigned a tank, two healers and 5 damage dealers; the tank griefs and changes to damage.
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