Why are summoners so neglected?

[Ririta]

Therein lies the problem, you end up having to rework the entire class, you certainly cannot just buff pet abilities because given that most of them happen automatically even bad players would get a damage increase. The alternative is to split the micro-managing between the Summoner and pet, this could be difficult for console players given how the pet hotbar is.

They want to lower the gap between good and bad players, allowing the egi to deal a higher % of damage would help with that objective.

[Wobi]

They want to lower the gap between good and bad players, allowing the egi to deal a higher % of damage would help with that objective.

Except this would lead to the top tier Summoners destroying everyone else in DPS.

[Mina]

They want to lower the gap between good and bad players, allowing the egi to deal a higher % of damage would help with that objective.

That doesn't make sense. Let's use math.
I'll make it easy.

Good Player: 2000 dps. Bad Player: 1000 dps. Current Egi 400 dps.

Good Player + Egi = 2400 dps
Bad Player + Egi = 1400 dps

Let's say that the Egi did a higher % of dmg. Let's say 50% of the Player's damage for fun (edit: and because it's easy reading).

Good Player + 50% Egi = 3000 dps
Bad Player + 50% Egi = 1500 dps
There was a difference of 1500 dps vs 1000 dps from the first scenario (in case you can't math). Strange. By your logic the bad player gap and good player gap should have decreased. I mean. It's like the good summoner got better and the bad summoner just got barely better. But because the good summoner got SO MUCH better, the bad summoner looks even worse by comparison.

[Shurrikhan]

Good Player + 50% Egi = 3000 dps
Bad Player + 50% Egi = 1500 dps
There was a difference of 1500 dps vs 1000 dps from the first scenario (in case you can't math). Strange. By your logic the bad player gap and good player gap should have decreased. I mean. It's like the good summoner got better and the bad summoner just got barely better. But because the good summoner got SO MUCH better, the bad summoner looks even worse by comparison.

You added the 150% egi value to an already existent 100% egi value on the Good player, but then added a number that is neither the egi value nor 150% the egi value to the bad player... Also, the issue is the ratio, not the flat value difference.

1000 vs. 2000. 2.00x
+ 400 each
1400 vs. 2400. 1.71x
(+50%, or 150%, egi damage) +600 each
1600 vs. 2600. 1.63x

To continue further:
(200% egi damage)
1800 vs. 2800. 1.55x.
(300% egi damage)
2200 vs. 3200. 1.45x.

Any increased shared offset will reduce the proportional difference between two varying sets.
Increasing both values by the same non-zero number would never give the same ratio as before the number was added. (2000:1000; 3000;1500)

[Shougun]

Lol. So.. Bahamut? Holy crap :P





Pretty cool looking :3

[Lambdafish]

Lol. So.. Bahamut?



Holy crap :P

HYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYPE

[ZhaneX]

Lol. So.. Bahamut? Holy crap :P





Pretty cool looking :3

THIS IS LEGITIMATELY EVERYTHING I EVER WANTED AND I AM SO HAPPY AND HYPE AND UUUUUUUUGGGGGGHHHHHH
Let me play already SE!

[Natsuno]

Lol. So.. Bahamut? Holy crap :P





Pretty cool looking :3

Just saw this on the live feed. Pure awesomeness. \o/

[Airget]

So, time for this topic to die I imagine? Honestly, if Summoners still have something to complain about after that vid there is no hope.

[Lambdafish]

So, time for this topic to die I imagine? Honestly, if Summoners still have something to complain about after that vid there is no hope.

#MoreBigSummonsPleaseThx

Looks like he's temporary, unless that bar counting down in the corner was something else. Still, it's nice to see Summoner's getting temporary summons. Hope for the future!

I prefer that to egis tbh, classic single player final fantasies (pre-FFX) worked this way.