Why are summoners so neglected?

[Shougun]

This is what would happen. Would still only be one or two considered the "best."

Also, I've seen a lot of people mention remove egis and have summons appear while you are casting a spell, but that just makes me think of BLM with different animations.

If summoning the Egi was more affordable, at least on interval, (assuming Duelle's Aethertrail idea), then given the knowledge of a raid and enemy target that may not be true. Fighting mages, bring your anti-mage out, fighting an AoE pack (aoe pet), fighting a single target (single pet), oh something hitting the fan? Bring out your CC pet.

Currently that'd be difficult because you'd be blowing your fast cast all over and a decent amount of mana, which is why there would need to be a mechanic change for sure, but to say you'd be stuck with two pets would only be true for either a job designed to be that way (SE's issue) or for casual players - because you could easily make switching pets up valuable (like omg 20% boost in DPS when you're using the right pet? that'd be huge to those who care to play optimally).

Tank pet might still be neglected but is very useful solo :P

[Holkan]

The two things that bum me out about summoner are the fact that its not really a summon focused class its just kind of tacked on and your pet has so few abilities. I wish your pet was the main focus of the class rather then a side thing tacked on. I also wish the summons weren't so dinky and pathetic looking. They seem like they should be the level 10 version of summons and as you level they should get more epic looking and stronger possibly tied to which weapon you have. Summoner relic weapons are kind of limited since they are just a book, but imagine if they made the summons more epic looking as you get better books.

[LunaFaye]

They want you to play Red Mage, and since Yoshi itself plays a BLM that Job will always see more love than the actual summoning or magic Job aka SMN. I don't mind it, I never played SMN for the eggi's, in fact sometimes I wish I wouldn't have to summon them and could just use my skills only and archive the same amount of DPS. But anyways, again RDM comes out, they want you to play that, he probably does more dmg than the BLM at the end as well as having the same mobility than the current SMN and that will then balance everything out Please look forward to it.

[Marcellus_Cassius]

Doubt we'll see a proper smn till blizzard makes , and seriously yoshi complaining about summoners wanting summons... man letting Tanaka go... I'll stop there.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Doubt we'll see a proper smn till blizzard makes , and seriously yoshi complaining about summoners wanting summons... man letting Tanaka go... I'll stop there.

To be fair, Tanaka wasn't going to have jobs in the game to begin with. You wouldn't have gotten a smn with him at the head.

[Ralts]

Doubt we'll see a proper smn till blizzard makes , and seriously yoshi complaining about summoners wanting summons... man letting Tanaka go... I'll stop there.

Summons are what makes FF game a FF game :/

[Settiesama]

Summons are what makes FF game a FF game :/

FF1 and FF2 aren't real FF games? :x

[Jerbob]

Putting in support for a SMN with actual pet mechanics.

I'm really frustrated to see the same negative arguments being made over and over that aren't actually relevant. Stuff like how great SMN currently is for damage, etc etc. The issue is a design one, not a potency one!

Also lots of negative stuff about XI's SMN that's unbelievably out of date. WotG is ten years old!

[Inosaska]

Putting in support for a SMN with actual pet mechanics.

I'm really frustrated to see the same negative arguments being made over and over that aren't actually relevant. Stuff like how great SMN currently is for damage, etc etc. The issue is a design one, not a potency one!

Also lots of negative stuff about XI's SMN that's unbelievably out of date. WotG is ten years old!

Exactly starting off by making a better pet mechanic system would be a good starting point in re-designing the job and splitting it off from Arcanist and Scholar and making Summoner into its own job.

[Naria]

I swear I must be one of the only people who plays summoner right now that likes how they have designed it as well as thinking it is an improvement to XI's summoner. Yes having lots of summons was fun. Being told to go whm or blm instead and almost never playing summoner unless I was solo wasn't.