What abilities do you wish to see for your job in 4.0?

[Jonnycbad]

Assuming we get new job actions what would you like to see?

Dragoon:
Highwind: Delivers a high jumping attack that deals 400 potency. Can only be used under Blood of the Dragon. Additional effect: Removes Blood of the Dragon effect.

This would be an awesome situational abilities when there's like 1-2 seconds left on BoTD before a mob becomes invincible or a boss jumps off screen. Would be better than using Geirskogul.

Scholar

Meltdown: On their next tick, all DoTs on the selected target tick for their full damage and then are removed.

This would be like a SCH version of Fester. If a mob has Bio/Bio II/Miasma/Miasma II up on a mob and there's 20ish seconds left and you know it might not last the full duration, you use Meltdown, and the buffs deal their remaining damage all at once and then disappear.

Machinist
Deus ex Machina: Sacrifice your Turret to deal unaspected damage with a potency 300 to target and all enemies nearby it. Grants 5 stacks of Ammunition. Cannot call a Turret for 30 seconds.

This is like a MCH version of Dissipate and is useful for when a target will go invincible or when you need to push the last bit of damage.

Paladin
Wide Slash: Auto attacks and Weapon skills extend to a cone-shaped AoE. TP recovery is halted and damage is reduced by 20%. Does not affect additional effects.

Dark Knight
Life Break: Delivers an attack with a potency of 150. Potency increases as HP decreases. Bonus damage under Walking Dead effect.

[Zojha]

Ninja:

Rei

Make the ritual mudra hand gesture for soul for 5s.
Shares a recast timer with the mudras Ten, Chi and Jin.
(Accompanied by a slew of new abilities :3)

Be Like Water (Passive)

Allows the usage of one weaponskill after two mudras have been successfully cast without losing the ninjutsu combo.

[MPNZ]

Maybe they could add a new Limit break action that would use only one of the bars from the Limit Break gauge, which would automatically place it on one of the odd-bars for crossbar users. They would be separate actions, of course.

TBH, If they add too many skills it would probably make the bloating issues way worse than they already are, so new traits would be so much more welcomed than new actions in PvE areas.

[Reptiletc]

Would love to see a fourth orb on my BLM, but really I need Thunder 3 to become an AOE. Maybe cut the DoT timers on the fourth enemy and beyond.

We need something that has a chance to reset swiftcast's CD as well.

[ADVSS]

Would love to see a fourth orb on my BLM, but really I need Thunder 3 to become an AOE. Maybe cut the DoT timers on the fourth enemy and beyond.

We need something that has a chance to reset swiftcast's CD as well.

might be an unpopular idea but i thought maybe nixxing enochian and having F4 eat a stack of AF, with a fourth stack added of course to retain the damage buff of enochian or slightly higher since initial damage would decrease back to normal at AF3, dunno how bafly this would effect blm pro's though.

[Atoli]

Honestly, I don't want new abilities in 4.0.
I'd rather have useful new traits that improve the current skills.
Alternatively, adding different playmodes to the jobs with skills you only can use in the mode you pick - so you don't need the skills for both on your hotbar.
Actually. Just make them new jobs for the existing classes. But I know SE said they don't want that anymore after SMN/SCH, so I'll stick with traits over skills

[Jonnycbad]

Honestly, I don't want new abilities in 4.0.
I'd rather have useful new traits that improve the current skills.

Yes but to pay for a new expansion and not get new animations for jobs would be a huge let down. Generating a new trait takes 4 seconds because it's just an adjustment of a parameter or two (increasing a duration or potency of an effect...boring).
I want new animations, and new toys to play with. If you don't add that, then battles never get more complex other than bloated stats on new ilvl gear and damage/healing values and mechanics. Boring! Maybe they could instead introduce new combos with higher potencies that replace old ones (but this would be annoying when you lvl sync...)

Also they said no to individual Limit Breaks. The justification was 99% of content was balanced for completion without relying on LB. LBs are just special to give you a boost in DPS or to save you from a wipe from too many mistakes. If they added individual LBs, it would mean balancing content around an influx of extra damage or other effects, so the net result would be the same as now, but now in addition to your rotation, you have another mechanic to juggle, your personal LB.

[MPNZ]

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I'm sorry, but the only way that might be possible is if the new actions replace the current ones permanently or when certain conditions are met, or by giving PvP and Deep Dungeon content more unique actions (like being able to set bait and traps outside of combat) without making it way too hard to use the crossbar setup effectively. And, you're also really underestimating what new traits or changing current actions can effect how jobs are played, you know.

Ugh, why does everything have to always revolve around "more DPS" for every class besides the healers, anyway?

[Craiger]

Yes but to pay for a new expansion and not get new animations for jobs would be a huge let down. Generating a new trait takes 4 seconds because it's just an adjustment of a parameter or two (increasing a duration or potency of an effect...boring).
I want new animations, and new toys to play with. If you don't add that, then battles never get more complex other than bloated stats on new ilvl gear and damage/healing values and mechanics. Boring! Maybe they could instead introduce new combos with higher potencies that replace old ones (but this would be annoying when you lvl sync...)

Also they said no to individual Limit Breaks. The justification was 99% of content was balanced for completion without relying on LB. LBs are just special to give you a boost in DPS or to save you from a wipe from too many mistakes. If they added individual LBs, it would mean balancing content around an influx of extra damage or other effects, so the net result would be the same as now, but now in addition to your rotation, you have another mechanic to juggle, your personal LB.

I agree with you on this. I would be really disappointed if they just added simple traits to make adjustments to our skills... And I see a lot of people talking about quality of life changes, which you don't need a whole expansion to get...

That being said, the worst thing possible would be for them to add new skills ON TOP of the old ones. If they completely replace the old ones (remove from hotbar), then I guess it's okay, but that would still be kinda weird for when you sync down to lower levels.

They don't have to add new skills though to make a big impact on your rotation and animations etc.

SE can change everything about our current skills if they want. They can make it so after reaching level 62 (I'm assuming we will get 60-70), you do a quest and one of your skills upgrade to something completely different and new (both animation wise and what it does).

They could also add some skills on top of the old ones, but you never need more skills on the hotbar than you do now... Take Meditation and Forbidden Chakra on Monk as a very simple example, that's 2 skills that fits into one skill slot. EDIT: What I mean is, that they could add new skills that only is available with some requirements, and automatically replaces another skill on the hotbar when you can use it, like with Forbidden Chakra

They added Dreadwyrm Trance for SMN in 3.0, which was meant to open up for Ruin III and Deathflare on top of increasing overall damage... but going into 4.0, they could just use Dreadwyrm Trance to make it change other skills you have instead of just allowing new skills to be used. In 3.0 Ruin III could just have been Ruin with increased damage and other animation when used in Dreadwyrm Stance (I know Ruin III can be used outside Dreadwyrm Trance now with the buff to it's damage, but still...), it would save one hotbar spot.

My point is, that SE doesn't have to choose between adding new skills on top of your old ones in the rotation, or just make minor changes with traits.

I sure hope they make some changes at least, as a long time Monk player, nothing basically changed in 3.0, and in 4.0 there needs to be a change in rotation for them, not just some added quality of life skills or traits.

[Atoli]

Honestly, about 3 new skills are worth like 30 cents to me. The bulk of the reason to pay for an expansion is the great new playground I get in terms of areas, content and the like.
I guess everyone has different reasons for playing (and paying)...

But that's exactly why I'd prefer additional jobs over additional skills for the existing jobs. You get new toys to play with on classes you already like and play, still have to level to the new levelcap with them (so it's not like you go into the new endgame completely blind), but the number of skills per job doesn't get more bloated. But unless they go back on their word, it won't happen :/

Sadly, as you said yourself, with lvl sync, you can't just throw lower skills that got better counterparts off your hotbar. We already see this with mages; all the Stones on WHM, all the Lightnings on BLM, AST's normal DMG skill in all of it's versions, etc.