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    cgbspender's Avatar
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    Honinbo Dosaku
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    Ragnarok
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    Culinarian Lv 70
    Oh my bad, I meant to do it without Innovation at all, forgot to mention, thus making it 425
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    Caimie Tsukino
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    Zalera
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    I use pretty much the same rotation as Assato above. I use Stone Soup to add 17 CP. Basically, you need IQ7 with Innov or IQ8 alone to reach 100% quality from zero quality. Progress-wise, Muscle Mem + 3x CS II under Ingen II seems to be the best. The problem is the 60 durab, which renders MM2 (160 CP) automatically losing 10 durab (meaning adding only 5 touches). So we prefer to do it by WN + Manip (144 CP, adding 5 touches) or Manip + Manip (176 CP, adding 6 touches). WN + Manip would be exactly as Assato's rotation above using pure Basic Touches reaching IQ7, and uses Innov to make that final boost of quality. Manip + Manip will let you reach IQ8, but apparently CP is really tight, and would require at least 1 Trick of Trade taken. In the end, I think Assato's rotation is the best way to go.
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    “The best crafter is not the one with the best stats, but the one who makes the best use of one’s stats” – By Caimie Tsukino

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    Tenebria Miku
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    Behemoth
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    what worked for me is basically the rath rotation.
    but you only use one piece by piece at the beginning and you may have to sacrifice a hasty touch attempt at the end for another careful synthesis II

    requires a little bit of using the brain but i just did about 10 attempts with the store bought components to test and worked for me every time so far. Pretty good odds for like 800g worth of components

    all the ones other than orphanage donation i just used a basic 40 durability macro with perfect success so far
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    Moriel Odindottir
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    Leviathan
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    Archer Lv 80
    I use: Muscle Memory, Comfort Zone, Inner Quiet, Steady Hand II, Basic Touch, Advanced Touch x2, Master's Mend II, Steady Hand, Great Strides, Innovation, Byregot's, Careful Synthesis II x3.

    I have 430 CP on my blacksmith, Craft 1021, Control 963. Rotation uses no food. Good for components as well as the actual item.

    One button Macro. Well at least it works on the Heartfelt gifts. We'll see about other things.

    Another edit. Orphanage donation was too big for this macro. Had to add a Piece by Piece after the first Steady Hand, Make the second Steady Hand into a Steady Hand II and added a Hasty Touch after it. and used 4 Careful Synthesis II.
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    Last edited by uberrod9; 03-25-2017 at 12:04 PM.

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    Caimie Tsukino
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    Zalera
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by elfolampo View Post
    Since you're at -35 at that point, can't you use Master's Mend instead of Manipulation there? You're only saving 3 CP anyway, and that puts it at 422 if I didn't miscalculate. To be honest, however, I have all of those cross-class skills on Blacksmith, which is the class I use to craft those things.
    4 CP. But yeah, it's not a lot, sure you can use MM to save one cross class slot.
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    Saber Kitteh
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    Excalibur
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    Carpenter Lv 70
    Here's 17 steps with no food that probably won't make you switch your cross classes around (955ish/900ish/430 req):

    Should get you to 6040 even if you have pretty bad control, requires about 955/900/430 so eat some cheap vendor food if you didn't max meld cp i guess

    here's your "1step macro"
    Code:
    /ac "Muscle Memory" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Inner Quiet" <me> <wait.2>
    /ac "Steady Hand II" <me> <wait.2>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Master's Mend II" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Steady Hand II" <me> <wait.2>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Basic Touch" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Great Strides" <me> <wait.2>
    /ac "Ingenuity II" <me> <wait.2>
    /ac "Byregot's Blessing" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <me> <wait.3>
    and if you really want a second macro:
    Code:
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <me> <wait.3>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <me> <wait.3>
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    Last edited by Sayboar; 04-13-2017 at 05:14 AM.

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    Caimie Tsukino
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    Zalera
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    My 2-part macro is very similar to Shadygrove's, with a few small differences:

    Macro Name: Orphanage 1- 418CP

    /ac "Muscle Memory" <wait.3>
    /ac "Comfort Zone" <wait.2>
    /ac "Inner Quiet" <wait.2>
    /ac "Waste Not" <wait.2>
    /ac "Steady Hand II" <wait.2>
    /ac "Precise Touch"
    /ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Precise Touch"
    /ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Precise Touch"
    /ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Precise Touch"
    /ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
    /echo Orphanage #1 ends! <se.2>


    Macro Name: Orphanage 2- 418CP

    /ac "Precise Touch"
    /ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Manipulation" <wait.2>
    /ac "Steady Hand II" <wait.2>
    /ac "Precise Touch"
    /ac "Basic Touch" <wait.3>
    /ac "Great strides" <wait.2>
    /ac "Innovation" <wait.2>
    /ac "Byregot's Brow" <wait.3>
    /ac "Ingenuity II" <wait.2>
    /ac "Byregot's Blessing" <wait.3>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <wait.3>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <wait.3>
    /ac "Careful Synthesis II" <wait.3>
    /echo Orphanage #2 ends! <se.3>

    By fitting in Precise Touches before Basic Touches but with no wait time, it will automatically execute Precise Touches instead if they're available. There will be an error message on every touch, but it won't hurt.

    By fitting a Byregot's Brow before Ingen2 with wait time, it will automatically execute Byregot's Brow under "Good" or "Excellent" conditions. Thus, this avoids an Excellent falling onto the Ingen2 step, which leaves Poor for the Byregot's Blessing. Ingen2 gives very little boost comparing to a Good on a Brow. So even if it wasn't an Excellent, but just a Good, the Brow will still be very strong. Notice that Brow only has a 70% success rate comparing to Blessing which has 90%. Hence, SH II is necessary. Luckily, under the arrangement here, SH II had already been used earlier, ensuring that the Brow is 100%. So no extra CP is needed. If Brow is executed, IQ stack = 0, and Blessing will not be executed. Since there's a wait time after Brow, Ingen2 will still be executed, providing the necessary boost on progress before the CS IIs.

    This macro uses only 418 CP (and 412 CP if Brow is executed). This is as good as I can get for 2-part macros for 418 CP (which for a lot of us, means no need for any food), and the power should be very sufficient to bring the quality bar to max with nearly zero risk of failing.
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    “The best crafter is not the one with the best stats, but the one who makes the best use of one’s stats” – By Caimie Tsukino

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