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    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaikiKiyoshi View Post
    You people really aren't getting it at all. Do y'all even read whole posts or just stop at the part you don't like and start furiously typing your displeasure at the notion? OP is asking for current tomes to be a reward IN ADDITION TO poetics. As in you get both. It's a good idea.
    I read the post, actually. The incentive as it is at present is perfectly fine, it doesn't need to reward better tomes because then it will simply start making the other roulette options inefficient. You can cast aside the attempts at armchair psychology. I am sure many people reading the thread will appreciate it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I read the post, actually. The incentive as it is at present is perfectly fine, it doesn't need to reward better tomes because then it will simply start making the other roulette options inefficient. You can cast aside the attempts at armchair psychology. I am sure many people reading the thread will appreciate it.
    This seems rather unlikely given that the reward can only be collected once per day, and at least as I understand it, it's quite common for players to prioritize collecting all of their roulette bonuses. It's not as though it's going to be collected endlessly and people will stop queuing for level 60 dungeons as a result.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I read the post, actually. The incentive as it is at present is perfectly fine, it doesn't need to reward better tomes because then it will simply start making the other roulette options inefficient. You can cast aside the attempts at armchair psychology. I am sure many people reading the thread will appreciate it.
    How would it make the others inefficient? You can still run those roulettes as well. Lore is uncapped, so its not as if the developers have to gauge how fast we can get lore. You can run the main scenario roulette, AS WELL as the other roulettes to get lore, thus meaning more lore everyday..... how is that bad?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I read the post, actually. The incentive as it is at present is perfectly fine, it doesn't need to reward better tomes because then it will simply start making the other roulette options inefficient.
    there's nothing inefficient about a bonus that only occurs daily. i haven't done Main Scenario Roulette for like a year, i do Expert like 3-4x a week at least still. every roulette should be more efficient than rerunning an expert dungeon without roulette.
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    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    I would have thought it obvious - it's inefficient in the sense that if the bonus is equal to or greater than what a higher level roulette option offers then there's a good chance that people will start ignoring a different roulette option for not being as profitable. Not everybody has a lot of time or desire to hit up every bonus offered by the roulette system each day.

    This is a community where it has become the norm to skip a major mechanic in Zurvan EX just like it became the norm to do the very same with Garuda EX back when that was relevant content. If the Main Scenario roulette offered a major chunk of lore tomes or even scripture as an incentive then there is a legitimate risk that people would drift away from another roulette option in favour of it given how quickly and easily it can be tackled.

    The developers will be thinking of the bigger picture and how changes will affect other bits of content when deciding how best to funnel players into particular instances. If some people disagree, fine - debate, that's fun. Engaging, even. You don't need to be snotty about it though, hence the 'armchair psychologist' comment earlier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I would have thought it obvious - it's inefficient in the sense that if the bonus is equal to or greater than what a higher level roulette option offers then there's a good chance that people will start ignoring a different roulette option for not being as profitable. Not everybody has a lot of time or desire to hit up every bonus offered by the roulette system each day.

    This is a community where it has become the norm to skip a major mechanic in Zurvan EX just like it became the norm to do the very same with Garuda EX back when that was relevant content. If the Main Scenario roulette offered a major chunk of lore tomes or even scripture as an incentive then there is a legitimate risk that people would drift away from another roulette option in favour of it given how quickly and easily it can be tackled.

    The developers will be thinking of the bigger picture and how changes will affect other bits of content when deciding how best to funnel players into particular instances. If some people disagree, fine - debate, that's fun. Engaging, even. You don't need to be snotty about it though, hence the 'armchair psychologist' comment earlier.
    This would only be an issue if the script bonus was too high. If you do something like 100 lore and 5 scripts like the leveling one, then people will still do the others.
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