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Personally I think SE needs to stop focusing on PLD's shield as it's theme, as it's not working, and focus a little more on our holy power as our theme. DRK is focused on using it's dark magic, and is a good tank. WAR is focused on it's inner beast/rage, and is a good tank. So doesn't it stand that if PLD was focused on it's holy powers it could be a good tank too?

Of course this is just my simple point of view on things.

Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo

And how exactly would you make offtanks "tank more" instead of sitting in DPS stance?

Well I dunno. Those other MMOs must be doing /something/ right, because "how much damage does my tank do?" is about as far from my mind as "what breed of pig would look the best in my yard" when I'm raid leading in WildStar. It's simply not a consideration, nor has it ever been a consideration in the other MMOs I've run raids in. Except for this one. :/ And though WildStar's raids are certainly amazing, they do also boil down to "get a boss's HP to zero" - just as EVERY MMO out there does.

So yeah, I'm a little unsure as to what to change in FFXIV because honestly there's just not that much of a difference... the mechanics are vastly more complex and engaging in WildStar I guess. But even in MMOs with similar levels of raid complexity, you don't really see this meta cropping up to such a degree as it does in FFXIV.

Originally Posted by AdventZero

Personally I think SE needs to stop focusing on PLD's shield as it's theme, as it's not working, and focus a little more on our holy power as our theme. DRK is focused on using it's dark magic, and is a good tank. WAR is focused on it's inner beast/rage, and is a good tank. So doesn't it stand that if PLD was focused on it's holy powers it could be a good tank too?

Of course this is just my simple point of view on things.

It could still focus on its shield, absorbing magic into the shield, reflecting magic with it and so on

Originally Posted by AdventZero

Personally I think SE needs to stop focusing on PLD's shield as it's theme, as it's not working, and focus a little more on our holy power as our theme. DRK is focused on using it's dark magic, and is a good tank. WAR is focused on it's inner beast/rage, and is a good tank. So doesn't it stand that if PLD was focused on it's holy powers it could be a good tank too?

Of course this is just my simple point of view on things.

But the shield is what makes the PLD "special". Like you said, DRK got the magic, WAR got the inner beast/rage. If the PLD would also focus on magic neither DRK or PLD would be unique anymore.

Originally Posted by Naunet

So yeah, I'm a little unsure as to what to change in FFXIV because honestly there's just not that much of a difference... the mechanics are vastly more complex and engaging in WildStar I guess. But even in MMOs with similar levels of raid complexity, you don't really see this meta cropping up to such a degree as it does in FFXIV.

Honestly, I think the existance of WAR and SCH in general are to blame. There shouldn't be a tank or healer that are designed to DPS. Imagine the game where your two options were DRK and PLD, would DPS be considered as much?

Originally Posted by Lambdafish

Honestly, I think the existance of WAR and SCH in general are to blame. There shouldn't be a tank or healer that are designed to DPS. Imagine the game where your two options were DRK and PLD, would DPS be considered as much?

Currently? Absolutely. In fact, people would double Dark Knight in that case because it pulls higher DPS in the off tank role. A good Dark Knight can nip at the heels of a Warrior provided they have a Ninja. As for Scholar, some groups go Astro/White Mage and you're still expected to be DPSing on either. Damage is everything in this game regardless of the job you play.

Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

Damage is everything in this game regardless of the job you play.

But DMG doesn't have to be everything. If people just relaxed a little and enjoyed the content instead of rushing it. Everything is manageable even without tank/healer dps.

But, this is a game, and people have done the same thing over and over and over. So it's only natural that people want to rush through it so they don't have to spend more time doing it.
It's hard to keep everything new and fresh. That's why alot of people take a break so they don't tire themselves out with the same content over and over.

Originally Posted by Evergrey

But DMG doesn't have to be everything. If people just relaxed a little and enjoyed the content instead of rushing it. Everything is manageable even without tank/healer dps.

But, this is a game, and people have done the same thing over and over and over. So it's only natural that people want to rush through it so they don't have to spend more time doing it.
It's hard to keep everything new and fresh. That's why alot of people take a break so they don't tire themselves out with the same content over and over.

That is their enjoyment. I, for instance, enjoy jumping into new content and figuring out where I can improve; what tweaks I can make to my rotation. And while healer DPS isn't a necessity, tank DPS is. That is partly how they maintain aggro.

Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

That is their enjoyment. I, for instance, enjoy jumping into new content and figuring out where I can improve; what tweaks I can make to my rotation. And while healer DPS isn't a necessity, tank DPS is. That is partly how they maintain aggro.

Yes, some people enjoy it, but it's not necessary to complete content. So in that way "DMG is not everything".
I just like being picky with words and point it out. =P