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    They are multiplying

    Okay so I doubt anyone would realize this right away, unless they never leveled Archer until just now... but there is a third, well technically first, Aliapoh.

    Leih Aliapoh

    Khloe Aliapoh

    Zhloe Aliapoh


    I wonder if any more will pop up? Also, since they are Keepers of the Moon, the likely hood of all 3 being sisters is very high, we already know Khloe and Zhloe are.
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    I dunno, related maybe. and even then they might just share the same last name without any relation like all the "Amariyo"s in existence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CyrilLucifer View Post

    http://chrysaliswiki.com/people:jihli-aliapoh

    I wouldn't be surprised if the Miq'hitten who is running a book on the foot race between two other kids, by the fountain, is also an Aliapoh.

    actually, looking at her image, she's not a keeper, but a seeker,

    so I think she's not an Aliapoh, unless they are a mixed family of course...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallera View Post
    I dunno, related maybe. and even then they might just share the same last name without any relation like all the "Amariyo"s in existence.
    The Amariyos are pretty cute though. Idk why they are, but the name is adorable.
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    Now... I know nothing about the lore, so I won't claim any knowledge. but a friend of a friend of a friend told me a while back that Miqo'te are named according to the tribe? or... Something like that? Not so much related, but possibly connected somewhere back?

    Again, just a shot in the dark. Mayhaps I should research before commenting? ah well, I'll be corrected, I'm sure
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffernuff View Post
    Now... I know nothing about the lore, so I won't claim any knowledge. but a friend of a friend of a friend told me a while back that Miqo'te are named according to the tribe? or... Something like that? Not so much related, but possibly connected somewhere back?

    Again, just a shot in the dark. Mayhaps I should research before commenting? ah well, I'll be corrected, I'm sure
    That are the Seekers of the Sun.
    The first letter is the tribe and the surname is the name of the father.
    example: Y'shtola = Shtola from the jaguar tribe (short Yah)

    Unlike the Seekers of the Sun, the Keepers of the Moon is a highly matriarchal society, with family names passed down from the mother, not the father. It is said that some of these surnames have survived since the First Astral Era.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post1014930

    So the Keeper of the Moon surnames are more something like clan names
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluffernuff View Post
    Now... I know nothing about the lore, so I won't claim any knowledge. but a friend of a friend of a friend told me a while back that Miqo'te are named according to the tribe? or... Something like that? Not so much related, but possibly connected somewhere back?

    Again, just a shot in the dark. Mayhaps I should research before commenting? ah well, I'll be corrected, I'm sure
    You aren't entirely wrong, Seekers of the Sun Mi'qote have tribes A-Z like Y'shtola & Y'mhitra. But since Seekers are Patriarchal, the majority of the tribe is inter-related. There is a breeding male, who mates and produces children, until the next male is "selected". Males will always be either a Nuhn (breeding male) or a Tia (non-breeding male) and any female offspring will bear the name of their father as their last name. In this case Y'mhitra and Y'shtolas father was, Y'rhul. Now based on the lore book we have an idea about these tribes. First Y'mhitra is older than Y'shtola by 3 years, or that is the way it seems based on their lore book entries, and Y'mhitra'e entry says she is 7th of 12 sisters. Now this could either mean that Y'rhul sired 12 offspring while he was a nuhn, or one Mi'qote mother had 12 daughter by him, which isn't impossible. But, I would believe the former since raising a child is tough and to be in pique "condition" for having a child, you'd have to have the them back to back at a young age. but anyway. Say Y'rhul did have one son, before he stepped down and another Nuhn was choosen. Now the new nuhn might have 16 children with the Rhul sisters. then when the time comes, Y'rhuls son is choosen as the next nuhn and has 13 children with the daughters of the original Rhul sisters, his sisters. See where I am going with this, each tribe by itself is interconnected in its relationships, and will remain so until someone either breaks away for whatever reason, or someone is brought in.

    Now as for Keepers, those families are a bit different, namely they mimic the structure we would view as normal, Mom, Dad, siblings, they don't have tribes only a nuclear family. Now similarly, people who have your last name may be related to you, or may not. It's the same with Keepers, their last names might be similar and they have no familial relation, or they are cousins distant or otherwise. As for Zhloe and Khloe, we know they are sisters, but as for Leih that is up for debate.

    The weird thing is that the Mi'qitten that lost her parents in Idyllshire is a Seeker, so her having a "father" is a little odd, given the structure of their tribes. Even if he stepped down as a Nuhn, wouldn't he have other children? The only other possibility I could see is, if wasn't a breeding male, and him and his wife running away since they "had a child" not under the proper rules of their tribe. The fact that they "were" in Idyllshire might support this as I believe it is unlawful for a male to breed if he is not a nuhn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    The weird thing is that the Mi'qitten that lost her parents in Idyllshire is a Seeker, so her having a "father" is a little odd, given the structure of their tribes. Even if he stepped down as a Nuhn, wouldn't he have other children? The only other possibility I could see is, if wasn't a breeding male, and him and his wife running away since they "had a child" not under the proper rules of their tribe. The fact that they "were" in Idyllshire might support this as I believe it is unlawful for a male to breed if he is not a nuhn.
    Not every Seeker of the Sun follows the traditional lifestyle. Just like with many other races who have scattered across the continents and taken up new lives in major city-states, some Seekers of the Sun no longer live in full out hunting tribes with a single Nuhn, etc. Compare the U Tribe to NPCs like H'naanza or the sisters from the Alchemist quest line. So while it might be unusual for members of a Seeker tribe to run away together and start a monogamous relationship, it's probably not entirely unheard of.

    If I recall correctly, Leih Aliapoh's family was killed, leaving her orphaned, so we can probably assume she is not a direct sister to Khloe and Zhloe. I believe that some Keeper last names are said to have been passed down for hundreds (or maybe it was thousands?) of years, so it's highly likely there are many, many Aliapohs at this point, all of them related but lots probably only distantly. Cousins or the like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eloah View Post
    The weird thing is that the Mi'qitten that lost her parents in Idyllshire is a Seeker, so her having a "father" is a little odd, given the structure of their tribes. Even if he stepped down as a Nuhn, wouldn't he have other children? The only other possibility I could see is, if wasn't a breeding male, and him and his wife running away since they "had a child" not under the proper rules of their tribe. The fact that they "were" in Idyllshire might support this as I believe it is unlawful for a male to breed if he is not a nuhn.
    What if They are all Aliapohs, and the mother is a Keeper of the Moon and father was a male Seeker who broke away from his tribe to seek his own life - as you say breaking convention and law - doubly so by mating with a Keeper I would presume. In any event, could such mixed parentage produce sisters who appear either to be Keepers, or Seekers, or some subtle combination of the two?
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