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    Stop PL Petition .

    PLing is just stupidly common. I'm seeing people shout for partys my lvl but as I read they want a level 50 for PL rotation. I currently do not have a level 50 so I'm stuck soloing. The few parties I've found have either ended in people leaving cause there wasn't a PL or turning into a PL party. The current system is broken and prevents new players from getting to a high level without a PL. I do not want to be PL'd and I will not ask for a PL.

    If you agree that the PL system should be removed or at least changed then post here. If you would like to debate or add anything then post here. If you would like to be a troll then click the red X in the top right of your screen.

    EDIT: If you have nothing constructive to add do not post please.
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    It was already changed to be quite a bit slower. No matter what you do or how you change it, people WILL powerlevel. The only ways one could truly stop it would put obnoxious restrictions on the game and punish everyone else at the same time. No thanks.

    If people want to powerlevel, that's their business.

    I don't see how the system outright prevents new players from getting to a high level without PL. It sounds more like people are preventing that, not the system. In which case, you'll have to find a group of like-minded individuals to play with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    It was already changed to be quite a bit slower. No matter what you do or how you change it, people WILL powerlevel. The only ways one could truly stop it would put obnoxious restrictions on the game and punish everyone else at the same time. No thanks.

    If people want to powerlevel, that's their business.

    I don't see how the system outright prevents new players from getting to a high level without PL. It sounds more like people are preventing that, not the system. In which case, you'll have to find a group of like-minded individuals to play with.
    Too many people are getting PL'd so there are next to no partys below the PL line. That prevents lower levels from leveling up without a PL. Leves are kinda slow to level on due to the hike to the camp not to mention they're limited in supply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToxicFox View Post
    Too many people are getting PL'd so there are next to no partys below the PL line. That prevents lower levels from leveling up without a PL. Leves are kinda slow to level on due to the hike to the camp not to mention they're limited in supply.
    I would hardly say they're limited in supply. I've spent hours straight doing leves and made a very small dent in what I had to begin with. It's better than that 8 every 36 hours we had previously.

    Like I said, find a group of like-minded individuals and play with them. Surely there's some group on Rabanastre that doesn't condone powerleveling.

    The problem with no one having classes to level would come up eventually anyway though, powerlevel or not. Powerleveling at least helps people with low ranks catch up if there's no means of actually leveling together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToxicFox View Post
    Too many people are getting PL'd so there are next to no partys below the PL line. That prevents lower levels from leveling up without a PL. Leves are kinda slow to level on due to the hike to the camp not to mention they're limited in supply.
    Funny you should say that. I've been level CNJ, THM and ARC in legitimate parties. I've even run into the issue where other legitimate parties are at our camp.

    Are you sure you're not just on a low population server?

    That said, the "drop from party and kill" thing needs to be fixed. But the general concept is fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    It was already changed to be quite a bit slower. No matter what you do or how you change it, people WILL powerlevel. The only ways one could truly stop it would put obnoxious restrictions on the game and punish everyone else at the same time. No thanks.

    If people want to powerlevel, that's their business.

    I don't see how the system outright prevents new players from getting to a high level without PL. It sounds more like people are preventing that, not the system. In which case, you'll have to find a group of like-minded individuals to play with.
    actually they already had a system in place to stop it before and they removed it. you couldn't add or drop from a party in combat. this would only leave one method of PL viable which is were the low lvls gotta engage the mobs first which would be really slow since they couldn't engage 15 mobs at once without dying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by syntaxlies View Post
    actually they already had a system in place to stop it before and they removed it. you couldn't add or drop from a party in combat. this would only leave one method of PL viable which is were the low lvls gotta engage the mobs first which would be really slow since they couldn't engage 15 mobs at once without dying.
    I wouldn't mind seeing that added in again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToxicFox View Post
    I wouldn't mind seeing that added in again.
    yea,its a pretty simple fix beings its already in the game mechanics
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    Quote Originally Posted by syntaxlies View Post
    yea,its a pretty simple fix beings its already in the game mechanics
    It makes me wonder what they were thinking when they removed it? If not to allow the mass PL link then what?
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    I haven't seen much of this on Besaid. It's there, but not common. Most parties seem to be actual parties. Not leech rotations.
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