Daily Bonus: Deep Dungeon

[Serilda]

If it's POTD's fault that some kinds of people can somehow get to 60 without bothering to read their action descriptions even once, shouldn't they reduce the exp from that and from levelling roulette and force people to level using slower, unsynced content? I mean, who learns anything about playing WAR at high level by tanking Tam Tara Normal daily for a month with a tiny portion of their eventual moveset unlocked?

I think the wrong thing is being blamed here. The lack of level-appropriate ways to get stronger and the lack of content which forces you to do something other than faceroll the keyboard until endgame are the true issues.

(Disclaimer: I have never used POTD to level in my life.)

[Lambdafish]

(Disclaimer: I have never used POTD to level in my life.)

I have, I levelled NIN through PotD, and I did learn my job through it. PotD is actually much better for learning than fates because I started in floors 1-50 which built up my skills over time so I could at least see what was new even if I didn't use them, and then spamming 51+ allowed me to just practice endgame NIN before I got there. I'm not a great NIN by any stretch of the imagination but I can do dungeons and 24mans (and maybe stretch to Alex NM, though I missed the boat there with NIN), but I know all my skills and utilise them all the best I can. Honestly? I wouldn't have learned to use trick attack for a while if not for doing PotD 51+ getting me used to an endgame rotation.

I will admit this doesn't work for all jobs, BLM in particular is an awful learning experience in PotD, and I feel like SMN might be too.

[Tint]

Deep dungeon gives way too much exp as it is. If anything it should give less XP. Deep dungeon is the reason why we have such a bad players when they only level in there and cant handle their jobs. So no please.

yeah, good was the time before they released deep dungeon... everyone could play their class, high dps, tanks who used cooldowns, healers who were staying around... farm parties were actual farming and not failing... good memories...

[Sylvaneste]

I totally disagree here. A player, cannot just go into POTD grind to 60 and jump into content. They still need to do the MSQ in order to unlock the content. That means, They have to play the game all the way through, to get to end game content.

If they still one button spam, stand in teh fire for the mystical fire buff, then nothing we, or SE, is going to be able to do, to improve their quality of gaming.

[Tint]

I totally disagree here. A player, cannot just go into POTD grind to 60 and jump into content. They still need to do the MSQ in order to unlock the content. That means, They have to play the game all the way through, to get to end game content.

If they still one button spam, stand in teh fire for the mystical fire buff, then nothing we, or SE, is going to be able to do, to improve their quality of gaming.

uhm, the MSQ doesn't teach you how to play at all. running from A to B to C and back to A and pressing through hundreds of message boxes is not really a proper way to learn your class ^^

but you are right with the other thing: people will only get better if THEY want to get better.

[dragonseth07]

but you are right with the other thing: people will only get better if THEY want to get better.

Which is why leveling method is completely irrelevant. The people that blame Palace for bad players are just grumpy.

[bswpayton]

Deep dungeon gives way too much exp as it is. If anything it should give less XP. Deep dungeon is the reason why we have such a bad players when they only level in there and cant handle their jobs. So no please.

Id say unsync is the reason not deep dungeon I have actually learned how to do some things in deep dungeon you dont learn anything in unsync content

[Zojha]

Id say unsync is the reason not deep dungeon I have actually learned how to do some things in deep dungeon you dont learn anything in unsync content

By the time you can unsync anything worth mentioning, you're already 50++ and should know your stuff >_>

[Tint]

By the time you can unsync anything worth mentioning, you're already 50++ and should know your stuff >_>

the problem is that you lvl way to fast, regardless of your lvling method. i was lvling my DRK in normal dungeons. i even started with sastasha to learn from low lvl, then i leveld my gladiatior to learn provoke and awarness. i was reading guids, had knowledge about all dungeons and knew what to expect from a tank. when i hit 50 i was going through all lvl 50 dungeons, just to get practice and learn the dungeons as tank. however, when i hit 60 i still had many problems with the class, mana management, using def cds right... it doesn't help that lvling and endgame dungeons are played completely different. and of course there are no tank swap mechanics at all in dungeons and the whole OT role doesn't exist.

[enthauptet]

Well I can understand why people don't like deep dungeon for learning jobs as it is nearly impossible. Everything dies too fast so you can't even begin to use a proper rotation let alone learn one as a new player to the job. I don't like doing potd that much and this is one of the reasons it drives me nuts not able to do my combos lol!