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    Cabalabob's Avatar
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    The game simply is not designed for this. "Just change to a dps spec" just? That would require a completely new set of armour designed for PLD that uses STR, a new set of skills, you can't be a dps using rage of halone and rampart. A new set of traits, again can't dps with enhanced VIT.

    It's basically the same as designing a completely new job with the same weapon. And while I'm certainly not against reusing old weapons on new jobs, I do not want to see them tied to the old classes or jobs in any way.

    E.G. Maybe they make Templar later down the line as a tank, it could use lancer's arms. But it wouldn't be connected to lancer in any way, it would be designed from the ground up with its own skills and traits and you'd only become Templar by equipping the Templar job stone.

    And even this has a glaring issue of the fact that this only really works for tank > melee dps and vice Versa. If a healer tried to use a thaumaturges arm they'd get stuck with some useless INT on their main weapon.
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    Last edited by Cabalabob; 03-22-2017 at 04:28 AM.
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    Bacent's Avatar
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    Bacent Rekkes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cabalabob View Post
    The game simply is not designed for this. "Just change to a dps spec" just? That would require a completely new set of armour designed for PLD that uses STR, a new set of skills, you can't be a dps using rage of halone and rampart. A new set of traits, again can't dps with enhanced VIT.
    Str/Vit have the same weight when it comes to a tank's DPS/attack power right now (Extra Str on accessories just gives a bit more damage from everything overall). They would have to change how that works for a 'tank as a DPS' in this set up.

    Not to mention this kind of 'split' for classes would have had to have been worked on from the get go. It's way too late for something like this to be implemented.
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    Ririta Rita
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    It's really depressing how the job design is getting more shallow instead of more complex as time goes. Even if we accept that no job can do anything besides their designed role, soon we'll be reaching 15 jobs that have less differences between them than the original 9 from 2.0.

    In the name of balance, they're streamlining the game so much that I don't even see the point of leveling any other DPS - heck, if not for marketing, I don't even see the point of having more than the original 9 jobs. It's designed so your choice doesn't matters besides aesthetics. A great marketing move, but one that not enough people are willing to criticize - ergo, it will never change.

    So yeah... we can't even have unique jobs, let alone different specs to play. I for one would love to be a summoner healer/support with Phoenix egi, but the game will close before I can even summon Phoenix egi at all. Balance = no fun allowed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ririta View Post
    Balance = no fun allowed.
    Would you prefer being excluded from any difficult content? FFXI suffered notably from certain builds or sub-classes being deemed "trash" and people outright refusing to take them. Balance is what allows players to more freely choose the job they prefer and still complete everything. Yes, the meta comp exists but it's not to the point of exclusion.
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