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    So Bahamut/Tiamat are Dawn/Dusk Wyrm, what about the rest of The First Brood?

    One of the single most interesting pieces of lore for me are the origins and lives of "The First Brood". I just saw that Bahamut has the title "The Dawn Wyrm" and that Tiamat has the title "The Dusk Wyrm", but I'm wondering about the rest of the First Brood?

    Obviously we don't know anything about Azdaja or Vrtra (yet, I hope), but what about Hraesvelgr, Ratatoskr and Nidhogg? Do they also have any titles?
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    Hraesvelgr and Nidhogg are called the Holy and Wicked dragons at times, but I'm not sure if those titles are equivalent.
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    The Encyclopedia doesn't attribute any titles akin to Dusk Wyrm or Dawn Wyrm to the Dravanian members of the First Brood, as least as far as I recall. It may be that those titles are a product of whatever culture Bahamut and Tiamat joined or formed around themselves after striking out on their own from their siblings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OvernightSiren View Post

    Obviously we don't know anything about Azdaja or Vrtra (yet, I hope),
    Hold up, wait a minute. When did we learn their names?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquaslash View Post
    Hold up, wait a minute. When did we learn their names?
    The Encyclopædia Eorzea contains the well-known old promotional illustration of Midgardsormr's First Brood, but now labelled with the names of the seven Great Wyrms superimposed on their faces.
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    I cant help but suspect the Dawn and Dusk names were to set of speculation about the origins of the Au Ra again. That gets me wondering if we will meet this third Au Ra clan they hinted at in Stormblood.
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    Well, Bahamut and Tiamat being related to the Au Ra or another member of the First Brood in Othard would be one way to tie Othard back to Eorzea in a mythological sense and provide a convenient reason for why we wouldn't have heard about it before from travelers/scholars/refuges. It would as provide an excuse for Midgardsormr to still hang around or even tie in with Estinien's return. and maybe Tiamat will leave Azys Lla
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    Wait, what third Au Ra clan?
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    They were mentioned in a panel by Koji a while back. We don't really know much about them besides that they are somehow different than the the other two clans.
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